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megatouch
2015-05-14, 08:12 PM
There is nothing like indicator that is 100%.trader need to learn how to lose money in the forex market for them to make good amount of pips in the forex market trading business.many do not want to lose and at the end they lose everything

dafi
2015-05-15, 06:39 AM
well dear we know that thinking on a one indicator 100% is very risky and i won't do it right till Its gifted through god in order to be able for you to help me personally.
i understand that just about almost most indicators have restrictions and hence Theres a probability of loosing my money, so i won't end up being getting this kind of risk blindly. Rather i will mix signals through some other indicators prior to getting any kind of choice.

ocea
2015-05-15, 07:57 AM
believe the indicator is good, because that's what will be the trigger for us out of the market, but we still have to focus on our goal, do not let things that we want to be in vain just because we too believe in the indicator, according to my instincts exist would also greatly help us to be able to go to the market with the right

soniailyas
2015-05-15, 08:00 AM
forex trading mi kis ak indicator per fully 100% trust kerna sahee nahi ha kuek is se ye ho sakta ha ke koi fake trading signle mily and trade loss ki tarf move ker jay and is ke elawa ye lazmi h ake candle stick reading per fully deyan dia jay.

ishvara
2015-05-15, 04:22 PM
Due to the fact that a Forex Indicator can change the signals that it gives us (i.e give both false and true signals), We need to use more than one Indicator. If we use only one, There is no way that we can see the bad or false signals and this can end up causing more losses.

indiantiger
2015-05-15, 06:31 PM
mujeh aisa lagta hai ki iss field mein aap kisi bhi cheze pe poora depend hona sahi nahi hota hai mein toh yeh kahunga ki forex trading mein aapko apne pe bharosa hona chahiye baaki sab khud ho jayega iss field mein.

pentkor
2015-05-15, 06:42 PM
actually no indicator work 100% accurately.best thing is , we should use indicator with our strategy and plan.and this way i think we can make maximize profit and minimize the risk.

I agree with you, no indicator is 100% accurate. indicators are also often issued false signals. so better is to make the indicator as a tool, do not rely 100% on indicator in the trade. in addition, the use of indicators must be learned first through a demo trading account, in order to know what the shortcomings indicator, and can be fixed.

rumon2015
2015-05-15, 07:20 PM
I do not use any indicator in trading time because most of the indicator do not work properly. Before placing any order i analyze the market properly. and most of the cases i trade in London session because this time market be move in parallel pattern and that time easily hunts some pips easily.

ishvara
2015-05-15, 07:39 PM
I personally do not trust anything 100% of the times, But i do use Indicators. Indicators should not be trusted 100% because sometimes it can usher in false signals for a Forex exchange trader.

promoneyfx
2015-05-15, 07:54 PM
I personally do not trust anything 100% of the times, But i do use Indicators. Indicators should not be trusted 100% because sometimes it can usher in false signals for a Forex exchange trader.

Ham logon ko pata hai ye baat ekdum acchi tarah se ki Forex trading ke business me ham log kisi baat par jyada bharosa nahi kar sakte hain aur agar hamare paas me trading ki theek tarah ki knowledge hai tab ham usko use karte hain.

forexlive
2015-05-15, 07:58 PM
bai saab ji app es kam app asa koi v indicater nai found kar sakte hai jo app ko es kam mai 100% true signal deh app es kam mai achi trding tabi kar sakte hai jab hum es kam mai displine se kam karte hai fer he hum es kam mai apne sabi dreams ko compete kar sakte hai bai saab ji forex ek worldwide bussiness hai hum es kam mai acha kama sakte hai bai saaab ji forex mai ek he din mai trillion dollar tak ki money lost hoti hai hum es kam mai sab kuch hsal kar sakte hai bai saab ji forex ek acha bussiness hai bai saab ji

dafi
2015-05-16, 12:15 PM
well dear we know that it's not right to believe any indicator 100% here.Because market is always changing u can't depend on a single indicator u have use your brain .Otherwise u have a great chance for losing a great here.

seahawks90
2015-05-16, 02:08 PM
bhai mein zyada indicators use nahi karta hoon mein news dekh ke trading karne wala trader hoon aur yahi kahunga ki forex trading mein poora kabhi kisi bhi cheze kabhi depend na hon warna isse aapko loss ho sakta hai bhai bhauat zyada.

upiter9999
2015-05-16, 02:23 PM
100% believe in the indicator if you will only get 60 chances of winning and get profits when open positions and 100% trust in the indicator is not a good thing and if depends on it too, you will have many losses

Deepanshu
2015-05-16, 02:44 PM
i have experience and understood that no indicator gives you 100% probability of success
but they greatly helps us in predicting the upcoming trend and choosing our orders
so if we rely completely on one indicator i think it is risky because i always use a combination of some of the well known indicators

tawhidworld
2015-05-16, 03:27 PM
I think Indicator is not trust able for dependable for us. many trader lose there are money for using indicator , Indicator never good for our trading or money . so I never like it ,I follow my own trading analysis, it is the most profitable for me.

galtex
2015-05-16, 04:31 PM
first of all forex main koi be aesa indicator nai hai k jis pey ap 100% bharosa kar sako kiun k mostly indicator repaint hoty hain or jo repaint nai hoty wo just 50% accurate hoty hain.

zahoor15
2015-05-16, 04:46 PM
i think indicator show where the market move when market move ups it show buy and when market going down mostly it show cell and give actual point that next where market move and show only trend and i think indicator is made for these purpose and next we have to think and plan for market and with experience and learning we can trade and think that where market go and what indicator show and what we have to do know all the things we learn with experience.

promoneyfx
2015-05-16, 06:59 PM
first of all forex main koi be aesa indicator nai hai k jis pey ap 100% bharosa kar sako kiun k mostly indicator repaint hoty hain or jo repaint nai hoty wo just 50% accurate hoty hain.

Ye baat to ekdum sahi hai ki ham log trading me Indicators ki madad lete hain lekin trades ko karne se pehle hame dekh lena chahiye ki agar hame income uski madad se nahi mil sakti hai tab wo wala indicator hamare liye kisi kaam ka nahi hota hai.

nur1992
2015-05-16, 10:02 PM
I don't trust any indicator 100% in forex market.i THINK indicator helps you to make right decision but it is not right in every time.Some time you need to analyze market by your own brain then you realize the difference between original analyze and indicator analysis.

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2015-05-16, 10:02 PM
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errami95
2015-05-16, 10:59 PM
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mujahidirshad60
2015-05-16, 11:37 PM
dear 100% percent koi bhi indicatoors pe depned or believe nahi karta kyun k apko is main kaafi loss hone ka khtra hota hay indicatopr kabhi apko kamyabi nahi dilwatay apko khud market ko analyse kar k trade karni chahiay.

ishvara
2015-05-17, 04:08 AM
One really need to make sure that we trust no Indicator 100%, Indicators are never 100% accurate and can always give false signals that would translate into losses for a trader.

dafi
2015-05-18, 03:02 PM
well dear for me I think in forex some trader used a indicator and try to earn a good profit but i am not satisfied with the indicator because he is not 100% helpful for the trader.with indicator some time you earn a good profit and some time you loss big amount.

jalaljan
2015-05-18, 04:26 PM
indicator forex ki market main ahm role aur ahm kirdar ada karty hai aur indicator hume buhot helpful hota hai aur is k use karny sy hume buhot profit b melta hain.

ishvara
2015-05-18, 04:28 PM
To have trusted a Forex Indicator 100%, It becomes obvious that a trader would simply have losses each and every time that their only Indicator gives false signals to them. Multiple Indicator use is best

ishvara
2015-05-20, 07:06 PM
In my personal trading experience, I do not use one Indicator. The trust and usage of 1 Indicator 100% of the times is not a good idea. This is because of the fact that Indicaors are unpredictable and at the same time these Indicators can give off false signals somtimes

dareking
2015-05-21, 11:22 AM
bhai 100% to is field mein koi bhi indicator ya koi bhi tools nahi hote hai, ye galat soch hai kafi trader ki unko lagta hai, ki idher 100% humko signal kisi bhi indicator se milta hai, lekin indicator to sabse jayda fake entry dete hai bhai. :D

Nova
2015-05-21, 12:24 PM
This happens with newbies many times. When they come across some new strategy , put on their trust .And results in loss.
What you think about it ?

In my opinion, no indicator is 100% give the result, therefore i am not depending completely on any indicator as I am trading according to my own predictions and planning.

Trading with this method, I am trading securely and surviving efficiently, I will also give the advice to all the newbies that they should trade according to their own planning and should never believe on any indicators.

asim00
2015-05-21, 12:29 PM
i dont trust on any indicator i believe they are never 100% true we need to ue our own knoeledge and skill to make money in forex indicator can help us but only depending on then is never good decision

voipkolkata
2015-05-21, 12:35 PM
Actually I do not trust any indicators in my trading strategy 100%, I just assume the trend of the market and when I be confirmed about the trend then I open trade but to confirm any trend I have to check with many indicators.

sunila
2015-05-21, 05:38 PM
mughy trade mai ik bar kafi probpem hoye thi aur wo yai hai k mainy bina check kieya indicator par belive kar lia tha magar wo indicator bad mai pata chala repant hai yai nahe k ik he bar us nay 3 bar market ko sahe batya magr bad mai bhut problem kia is leyay ab nahe hota hai belive kese bhi indicator par,,,

TIMOR
2015-05-21, 06:21 PM
earn in the forex market i will use it to the fullest and become one of the richest forex market trader on earth and forex market will move so you must have to use fundamentals as well so that you will not take wrong trade.

Tassawar Azam
2015-05-21, 06:34 PM
yes indicator or trends par 100% trust nahi kiya ja sakta hay yah market ko sirf thora analysis kr sakty han agr koi trader indicator use krta hay to phir usko kafi zayad experiance krna chiya pahly demo account par indicator ko use kr k . agr pratice nahi ki gii to phir loss ho sakta hay trades par .

sajumanir2
2015-05-22, 11:21 PM
I don't depend on indicator 100%. indicators are just supporting us to make sure that the actual technical research and also most of us are not able to buy and sell based on these people alone indicators.

zuhaib shakeel
2015-05-22, 11:26 PM
I do not know about this i never use any indicator while trading may be they are correct and helps me to earn profit but according to me personal analysis are most satisfied analysis as compare to any other tip or indicator because there is nothing to learn in a tip or indicator.

ishvara
2015-05-23, 03:42 AM
i dont trust on any indicator i believe they are never 100% true we need to ue our own knoeledge and skill to make money in forex indicator can help us but only depending on then is never good decision

It is a very good idea that a Forex exchange trader does not trust any Indicator 100%. This would help them a lot. An Indicator can never be 100% perfect in giving signals, That is why we have to treat it in the same way, Never trust it 100%

zani
2015-05-23, 08:49 AM
well dear in forex trading if you face loss then just trade your strategy,thats it.Its not like we can or we have to stick with only one indicator.so we can always change with other indicators if it doesnt goes our way.

fxbirati
2015-05-23, 09:02 AM
My friend, I think we should not trust on any indicators for 100% because any economy news can change the trend of the market and we should need to be practical and have to understand the sentiment of the market and have to trade on it.

xaxi
2015-05-24, 02:54 PM
well dear I actually consider the indicator always will not help you win, it can help you to win for a long term, but it will not allow you all time.have you ever thought that if there was an indicator can help you win all the time, I think that all dealers will use it and profit constant.

raks
2015-05-24, 03:57 PM
This happens with newbies many times. When they come across some new strategy , put on their trust .And results in loss.
What you think about it ?

when the newbies trust 100% on any indicator they have to face big loss they should not trust any indicator 100% we never know how for market will move so we have just our logic that at that level market would move, as i have not used any indicator so i can not tell you much as i know all about it i have given my opinion about it. even most of the time experts are right but some time they have also wrong analysis.

faruq14
2015-05-24, 05:00 PM
The indicator is on kind of software which the indicate how to doing and the condition to realize that they can earn good position . It is good for some time but not always this software no work accurate the good and expert trader never depended this system they depended won system to earn money.

fxmoney
2015-05-24, 05:37 PM
when you trust any indicator 100% then you must have to place your trade with proper stop loss and take profit so that you will not lose from the wrong trade so try to understand the importance of the money management.

widia
2015-05-24, 05:51 PM
since in this marketplace there is zilch suchlike 100% surgical indicator survive, so we should never believe in any Indicator so often. i think if trader want to get trading knowledge than you not need to trust on indicator otherwise if you trade on indicator than you can not get success

hany10
2015-05-24, 05:58 PM
This indicator of maps that will give guidance to err. map on the right generally although not 100% but is usually a mistake that read maps tu Yes it's true, it's very important indicator for signs trading. is possible if the trader can trade successfully without tools indicator.

dexgotastra
2015-05-24, 06:21 PM
natural thing beginner trust indicators because they see the history yng already occurred. But eventually they realize with indicators that often repaint. Even after they are desperate they will believe an EA (exper advisor). My advice to be careful with EA because I know there yanng broker cheating on the performance of EA

dareking
2015-06-02, 09:36 AM
bhai khair hum bahut hi achi tarah se jante hai, ki forex market mein 100% kuch hota hi nahi hai, to fir hum kyun aisa kisi system ya indicator par bharosa kare bhai, ki wo humare ko 100% income de sakta hai bhai.:)))

jara
2015-06-02, 01:45 PM
can sue the good indicator indicator will not alwasy help you win .It may help you win for a long term,but it will not let you win all the time.have you ever thought that if there exists an indicator can help traders win all the time,I think all traders will use it and profit constantly.There will no need for professtional trader in forex.So do not beleive an indicator completely,it may hurt you so harmly in the end.

Pisces07
2015-06-02, 02:17 PM
agr aap iss kaam main aik indicator pe 100% trust karen ge to aap ko loss ho sakta ha iss liye main to aap ko ye hi suggest karun ga ke aap jitni trading karen uss ko apni mehnat se karen aur apni akal se karen kisi bhi indicator pe dependent na rahen iss liye aap ko chahiye iss kaam main jitna ho sakta ha maharat haasil krney ki koshish karen issi main aap ko fayda ha

Hajli
2015-06-02, 02:22 PM
that happened many times to me in beginning i open trades and i don't why really i don't know why someone says that a good strategy use RSI and MA and a follow him like a idiot

rocks123
2015-06-02, 02:35 PM
yeh forex business mai indicator bahut hi important hai kunki usse market trend ka pata chal sakta hai lekin hum totally 100% trust nahi kar sakte kunki yeh business mai bahut si strategy use hoti hai aur risky business hai toh hume woh indicator ko demo mai first use karna chahiye aur knowledge lena chahiye.

fxkol
2015-06-02, 02:37 PM
Sir main nahi manti hu ke yaha par traded ko karne ki liye kici vi Indicator ko hame pura trust karna chaiey kuk ham trader ko kici vi indicator ko use karne se pahele jaruri haike usko pahele acche se analysis karke bad me demo account me uske use karne kibad hi apne asly market me use karna .

dwaipayan
2015-06-02, 03:35 PM
koi bhi indicator 100% fullproof nahi ho sakta.indicators apka trading ko help kar sakta hai lekin agar ap koi indicators par jada tust korenge to apka akhir me loss hi hoga.indicators ko croos check korna chahiye.

faruq14
2015-06-02, 03:41 PM
The indicator one kind of software which we use it and every trader can earn the good money some time when a trader depended on this signal then we can do it and every time we should do it. But always we do not depend this account because this signal always no wok properly the experience and expert trader always earn his use own indicator.

sehar1
2015-06-02, 04:11 PM
Definitely I will face lose when i will trust hundred percent on indicators because only indicators are not sufficient thing lot of other elements are involve to get idea for placing trade while new person fully depend on mt4 indicators or news or also others peoples signal accept blindly

dareking
2015-06-09, 12:12 PM
agr aap iss kaam main aik indicator pe 100% trust karen ge to aap ko loss ho sakta ha iss liye main to aap ko ye hi suggest karun ga ke aap jitni trading karen uss ko apni mehnat se karen aur apni akal se karen kisi bhi indicator pe dependent na rahen iss liye aap ko chahiye iss kaam main jitna ho sakta ha maharat haasil krney ki koshish karen issi main aap ko fayda ha

bhai agar jo hum 100% us par bharosa kar rahe hai, to ismein koi burai nahi hai, ye jaruri nahi hota hai, ki uske sabhi signal par humare ko trading karna chahiye, jo true signal hote hai, us par bharosa karna thik hota hai bhai.

seerat12
2015-06-09, 12:17 PM
g han bhi g bilkul sahi fermaya app na k humain mukamal toor pa kisi b indicator pa relai nahi kerna chahya kun k ya hamasha ya indicators derust nahi hota so carry on trade but dont trust on any indicator completely ....:peace:

shahidimran542
2015-06-09, 12:24 PM
hum jab market ky up down ko dekhty hain k ap market up ya down jany wali hai or indicator ko check kar ky trading laga dety hain tu b market thori c up ya down jati hai lekin ap ko tension leny ki zarorat nahi woh indicator ky hisab sy wohi jay gi jahan indicator bata raha ho ga tu woh profit dy kar hi jay gi

fxearner
2015-06-09, 04:37 PM
forex ke business me agar trader indicator par he sirf depend hokar kaam karta hai to fir wo yahan losses bhi bahut karenga kyunki indicator hamesha market me trader ka saat nahi dete,wo bhi wrong fake signals kahi baar market me dete hai..

soniailyas
2015-06-09, 05:16 PM
koi bhi indicator 100% positive result nahi dy sakta ha is ly her kamyab and experience forex trader apni trading mi lazmi kisi na kisi indicator ke sath dosry kisi other indicator se bhi help zaroor lita ha.

wonggo
2015-06-10, 08:02 AM
For me, it is hard to make good profit if we trust indicator for 100%. because indicators often give us false signal. i think it is much better for us to not trust indicator for 100%. i know that indicator can help us, but however we can't trust it for 100% to make analysis for us

PANKAJMEHRA
2015-06-10, 08:41 PM
if anyone wants to trade from specific indicators only then he can use that indicator in the demo account for weeks and test in different conditions and different currencies pair and also make a ea of it if running out of time and if a trader finds the indicator profitable then he can sell and even trade for his own benefit

seahawks90
2015-06-10, 10:23 PM
bhai mein toh yeh kahunga ki iss field mein kisi bhi cheze pe poori tarah se depend na ho jayein iss field mein agar aap pori tarah se kisi indicator pe depend hote hain toh yeh aapki galti ho jayegi forex trading mein se accha paisa kamane ke liye mehnat zyada karni hoti hai hamesha.

M.USMAN
2015-06-11, 02:49 AM
Indicators trading me indicate karty hai.I think trading me 100% true indicator koi nhi hota.Trading me indicators some time wrong bhi hotay hai.Our indicators me wrong ka element paya jata hai.Indicator use karny kay baad traders ko apnay mind say trading karna chahye.

nake
2015-06-11, 09:19 AM
can use the godo indicator indicator will not alwasy help you win .It may help you win for a long term,but it will not let you win all the time.have you ever thought that if there exists an indicator can help traders win all the time,I think all traders will use it and profit constantly.There will no need for professtional trader in forex.So do not beleive an indicator

Money Maker 15
2015-06-15, 01:59 PM
i think forex mn koi b aesa indicator nai bana k jo forex mn 100% profit day saky balky jo repaint indicators hoty hain wo just 65 % tak hi acha result create karty hain.

pakpa
2015-06-15, 04:16 PM
When i believe or trust indicator for 100%, what will happened is i will get many false signal. however, i think we can't depend on indicators only, we must use our logic, our eyes to make analysis also to prevent false signal

M.USMAN
2015-06-16, 05:08 AM
Agar me kisi indicator per 100% trust karo tu me maximum lot size me trade kar sakta ho.But trading me koch bhi 100% nhi hota.Yaha per risk ka factor zaror hota hai.Traders ko normal trading hi karna chahye.

pentkor
2015-06-16, 08:37 AM
Our technical indicators are far from perfect and we should not depend on them to give us 100% accurate signal all the time. We should also check other factors that can influence the market movements. Indicators are just tools to gauge market condition.

I agree, that the indicator only tools. do not 100% believe the indicator, as is often the indicator also give false signals. so if you believe 100% with indicators, I believe the result is less than the maximum. You also need to have the analysis beyond the indicators, so you can get an extra reference for making decisions when trading.

fxbirati
2015-06-16, 09:02 AM
Firstly I do not believe in any one Indicators 100%, I use more than 2 indicators in my trading and if I trust any indicator 100% working then I may earn more money from the forex trading and it will be a nice for us that an indicators providing us the best indication about the market and can make us success in trading.

dareking
2015-06-16, 10:59 AM
Agar me kisi indicator per 100% trust karo tu me maximum lot size me trade kar sakta ho.But trading me koch bhi 100% nhi hota.Yaha per risk ka factor zaror hota hai.Traders ko normal trading hi karna chahye.

bhai agar aap 100% kisi indicator par bharosa karke trading kar rahe hai, aur jayda high lot size ke sath aap trade karte hai, to aap apna paisa kafi jaldi minto mein kho sakte hai, ye jaruri nahi hota hai ki indicator jo signal de wo sahi ho bhai.

AHFIRNET
2015-06-16, 12:16 PM
well 100% trusting on indicator is not good.
first we test that particular indicator in demo account and we also use our brain when we are trading.
indicator many time give us false signal batter we use then with combination other indicator

Arif Yulianto
2015-06-16, 12:26 PM
I scare about trusting new indicators which will affects me to do what it says to make an entry. If I always listen to that indicators so I will get bad result in my trading accounts. The worst thing is, I will get margin call or my balance decreases in time.

sunila
2015-06-16, 05:24 PM
mughy aysa lagta hai k jab tak ap is mai koi good strategy nahe banaty hain tab tak yaha par ap ko trade bilkul nahe karni chayay kio k yaha par agar ap good strategy k sath forex nahe karty hain tou loss ka samna hota hai is sai bachny k leyya ap k leyay kese achea indicator ko find karna zruri he hota hai..

Medo.Forex
2015-06-16, 06:55 PM
I think when you trust any indicator 100% then you must have to place your trade with a proper stop loss and the take profit so that you will not lose from the wrong trade so try to understand the importance of the money management.

Manite
2015-06-16, 07:02 PM
indicator's are always be help out to you for better trading in forex trading so better to depend 100% to your own capabilities to make your trading more profitable and effective so get more learning and trading knowledge to be a best trade r.

dafi
2015-06-18, 05:32 PM
personally in forex trading I consider when you get a new strategy then you should try it with forex demo account. demo account can help you in this way. Forex is not an easy business, So you should try first in demo account. If its report is well then you should use it in your real trading.

vite
2015-06-18, 05:46 PM
personally in forex trading I consider if all of us believe in any kind of indicator 100% all of us lose money a big money, as a result of all of us do not know once the chart transfer towards all of us all, economie news management the actual transfer of chart, so we should notice a lot of news compared to adhere to the actual indicators.

pentkor
2015-06-18, 06:56 PM
I think that is the right result. there is no indicator that can provide 100% accurate predictions, and the indicator is often too late. Believe in the indicator does not hurt, but we have to know when we have to put Stop Loss. Because Indicator is not entirely true. good job...................................

I agree with you, basically there must be a time indicator will give false signals, so if we believe 100% the indicator, there will be a loss of course, so we had to use a stop loss in any of Trade, so that it will keep us from great loss. because the stop loss will limit our losses.

seahawks90
2015-06-18, 07:06 PM
bhai forex trading mein kabhi bhi poora depend nahi hona chahiye kisi cheze pe mein toh yeh kahunga ki forex trading mein se paisa kamana hai toh aapko iss field mein soch smajh ke kaam karna hoga warna iss field mein se kuch hasil nahi kr sakte hain.

vite
2015-06-18, 07:15 PM
yes dear in fact I actually consider indicators tend to be not very a lot efficient on trading and all of us cannot believe in and indicator 100 % as a result of There‘s a risk degree on indicators if u do not know exactly just precisely the way these people function so the foremost important factor is actually a good strategy and hard function.

voipkolkata
2015-06-18, 07:42 PM
First of all I do not believe in any indicators in forex trading because I think forex trading is not only depends on technical analysis but also fundamental analysis too, without understanding the fundamental analysis no one can get success with any Indicators.

vite
2015-06-20, 09:28 AM
well dear I personally believe that as beginers i think indicator may be true but I think we need more and more experience about this. I say we should trade myself most of the time. We can some time follow indicator for earn experience.

dafi
2015-06-20, 01:38 PM
Well in fact I personally believe i trust indicators fully before but the result were so must pathetic that gives me profit first time and later continuous loss as a result i lost everything slowly, so trust in any indicator now a days is impossible for me. I m doing technical analysis with the help of indicators but i can't rely on them fully.

nake
2015-06-21, 02:26 AM
can trade doalr is better ways right result.An indicator will not alwasy help you win .It may help you win for a long term,but it will not let you win all the time.have you ever thought that if there exists an indicator can help traders win all the time,I think all traders will use it and profit constantly.There will no need for professtional trader in forex.So do not beleive an indicator completely,it may hurt you so harmly in the end.

sajumanir2
2015-06-21, 04:08 PM
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Zia45
2015-06-21, 04:31 PM
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DabangStyle
2015-06-21, 04:37 PM
Kisi bhi strategy per ya kisi bhi indicator per mere kahayal mien aisey he ankhien band kar key trust nahi kar lena chahye pehley achey tarah sey usko test karna chahye demo account per pir us ko real account per apply karna chahye.

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2015-06-22, 08:08 AM
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2015-06-22, 08:52 AM
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fxbirati
2015-06-22, 09:06 AM
This happens with newbies many times. When they come across some new strategy , put on their trust .And results in loss.
What you think about it ?

My friend we know that if any indicator works 100% then we can easily trade and can understand the trend of the market, we need to know that if we follow the trend then we can make good profit, so trend is very important in forex trading.

sourav327
2015-06-22, 10:06 AM
There is no indicator that have to help in every time for making profit. Personally i do not use in any indicator in my trading. Before placing any order i try to find out the market trend and continue the trade on this basis. I think, if any person only depends on indicator for trading then he or she do not well in Forex.

akash4u4ever
2015-06-22, 10:28 AM
There is no indicator that have to help in every time for making profit. Personally i do not use in any indicator in my trading. Before placing any order i try to find out the market trend and continue the trade on this basis. I think, if any person only depends on indicator for trading then he or she do not well in Forex.
bhai main kabhi kisi ko indicator use krne ko nae kehta maine bht dekha hai indicator ka use bus loss hi layak hai ye sab itni false entry dete hai ki hum log trade laga dete hai bad main pta chalta hai market slip ho gya

a_for_apple
2015-06-22, 11:18 AM
actually a lot of ways of trading one of them is trading without indicators. for those who are trading without indicators, trust indicator 100% is a bad thing
but for those who trade using indicators, of course they should trust indicators. but it remains to be rational. use stop losses to limit losses

sunila
2015-06-22, 08:16 PM
mainy indicators ko kabhi believe nahe kia hai kio k mughy pata hai k is mai mughy loss k elawa kuch aur nahe hona ap indicators ko bhut he clevering k sath moniter karty hain tou he is mai kuch sahe rahta hai ap k leyay aur is cheeze ka dehan rakhna bhi zruri hai k is mai ap always indicator par he trade nahe kar sakty hain...:))):)

dafi
2015-06-23, 08:13 AM
in fact I always think that there is no 100% trust indicators ,indicators move according to the currency price movements .so we don't totally trust indicators .we can built up a strategy based on any indicator and trade with good risk reward ratio so we can gain profit.

mix
2015-06-23, 07:55 PM
Well actually to me I think indicators are for knowing the present market situation. After analyzing the market condition we may take decision according to our own experiences. So to depend only one indicator is not good idea. So we should view the market with different angle by using different indicators.

eurofab
2015-06-23, 08:03 PM
jaan tak mera experience hay hamain indicators per 100% yaqeen nae kerna chaehay kyon kay ye to bas indicators he hoty hain aur in ka kaam market ki tarf ishara kerna hota hay kay ab market kis tarf jaey gi aur baaz oqaat aysa b hota hay k market indication kay khilaaf chali jati hai so hamain bas indicators say help he leni chaeay k market ka rukh ab kiss tarf hay

seahawks90
2015-06-23, 08:10 PM
bhai iss field mein kabhi bhi kisi bhi cheze pe poora vishwas karke trading na karein trend bhi ulat sakta hai kabhi bhi iss field mein se agar accha paisa kamana hai toh aapko iss field mein soch samajh ke kaam karna hoga warna loss ho sakta hai aapka iss field mein.

forexlive
2015-06-23, 08:42 PM
bai saab ji app es kam mai koi v indicater ko use karlo app es kam mai os time tak achi earn ing nai kar sakte hai jab tak app es kam mai ache trder nai ban jate hai bai saab ji forex ek best bussiness hai app es kam mai acha paisa hard work se he bana sakte hai bai saab ji forex mai app apne sabi dreams ko compete kar sakte hai bai saaab ji forex ek best bussiness hai bai saab ji

mix
2015-06-24, 02:17 PM
yes, of course I think its true that it will not be a wise decision that we should trust in indicators all the time. I find that no indicator works 100% and it give sometimes reversal results. Therefore, we should see what indicator say and what our analysis says at the same time.

fakit
2015-06-25, 12:47 PM
yes of course its very true that to have trusted a Forex Indicator 100%, It becomes obvious that a trader would simply have losses each and every time that their only Indicator gives false signals to them. Multiple Indicator use is best

pentkor
2015-06-25, 01:11 PM
there is no indicator that can provide 100% accurate predictions, and the indicator is often too late. Believe in the indicator does not hurt, but we have to know when we have to put Stop Loss. Because Indicator is not entirely true.ledkin trading karte samay agar hum 100% result expect karte hai to e bilkul galat ha.keu k indicators to trend ka bareme warning deta hai ledkin accha traders 100% expected nehi karta ha.

it is true, the indicator is often signaled too late, even sometimes also give false signals. so I agree that it should use the stop loss to anticipate when indeed there is a loss in trade. but it also must learn to understand the character of the movement of the market, due to price movements have a character that is often repeated.

mukas
2015-06-25, 01:16 PM
dear personally I believe 100% believe in the indicator if you will only get 60 chances of winning and get profits when open positions and 100% trust in the indicator is not a good thing and if depends on it too, you will have many losses

akash4u4ever
2015-06-25, 01:22 PM
dear personally I believe 100% believe in the indicator if you will only get 60 chances of winning and get profits when open positions and 100% trust in the indicator is not a good thing and if depends on it too, you will have many losses
kisi indicator pe 100% trust krna bht risky hota hai kynki indicator bht bar false entry dete hai humme un false entry se bachna hota hai mera bus theme hota hai apni knowledge ko jyada se jyada increase kr yha hard work krna

faruq14
2015-06-25, 01:30 PM
The indicator fore forex trading is very important which we will success easily to doing money making opportunity . we know the lot of people use the indicator that we will use this software then they will success on money making here that is the great system but we will use this system manually

fakit
2015-06-26, 02:45 AM
personally in forex trading I consider the indicator is only useful as a tool for trading and no more, let alone the price movement does not bia is also predicted with certainty. so however we can not entirely trust the indicator and you should try to be more independent trading.

megatouchfx
2015-06-26, 03:42 AM
If i trust a indicator 100% and is working that means i will become the richest forex market trader.trader should not trust the strategy 100% because there is no 100% strategy in the forex market trading business

goggo
2015-06-26, 05:39 AM
I don't like to depend on the indicators 100% because you will lose your money sooner or later , the indicators just follows the price and you can't risk your money depending on this lagging tools , try to learn the technical analysis because it gives a good results.

Naughty_Guy401
2015-06-26, 06:15 AM
Dear sub se pehle mein ap ko yehi btana chahta hoon ke forex mein koi bhi strategy indicator system ye EA robot apko 100% result nahi deta around 100/80% take surety dete hain yeh tool woh bhi kuch famous tool like sma fibo retracement , Rsi i-e and ap ko koi bhi indicator directly real account pe test nahi kerna pehle usko demo account pe at least one month tak test karein...

moamen khaled
2015-06-26, 06:55 AM
i think that i will just trust my eyes , if you have
good plan with stop loss and take profit and have some good experince , you will earn much money from forex

pentkor
2015-06-26, 07:18 AM
We should not be 100% dependent on indicators we should be able to depend on the implementation of our own trading strategy,so that we can always reverse to it when our indicators fail us,i do have 30% trust on indicators.

it is true, the strategy should be the main, do not depend on the indicator. even in my trade, I do not use indicators. but I have experience of using indicators, in my opinion the shortcomings of the indicators is often too late to give a signal and sometimes give false signals.

fxbirati
2015-06-26, 07:39 AM
My friend I think in real traders do not trust one single indicators in forex trading, I think if we trust a indicators 100% then it may happen 2 things- we can make huge money or we have to loss huge money, So I think using more than one indicators are always good.

pakpa
2015-06-26, 09:55 AM
I dont trust any indicators, it which makes me dont use any indicators. i think it is hard for me to make my trading become so simple but accurate if i trade using indicators. then until now, i dont use any indicators on my charts

fakit
2015-06-26, 10:42 PM
well to me i personally think i do not use one Indicator. The trust and usage of 1 Indicator 100% of the times is not a good idea. This is because of the fact that Indicaors are unpredictable and at the same time these Indicators can give off false signals somtimes

M.USMAN
2015-06-27, 04:04 AM
Indicator per agar me 100% trust karo tu me apny risk ko increase karo ga.But big risk say trading nhi karo ga.Indicators always true nhi hoty.But indicators mostly true hi hotay hai.Traders ko apny mind ko use kar kay right indicators follow karna chahye.

raks
2015-06-27, 06:50 AM
This happens with newbies many times. When they come across some new strategy , put on their trust .And results in loss.
What you think about it ?

jaisa ki maine indicator use kiya hai koi bhi indicator 100% aapako profit nhi deta hai or agar aap kis bhi indicator ke lekar active hai to aapko loss nhi hoga aap hr ek poin ko achhe se analysis kar ke achha profit bana skte hai agar aapko kissi bhi indicator ke upar puri tarah se depend ho jate hai to aapko nhi pta hota hai ki market kb or kitna movement kar skta hai or aap apane trade ke prati active nhi rahenge or aapko loss ho skta hai.

dareking
2015-06-27, 10:38 AM
bhai main indicators ke sath mein trading jarur karta hoon, lekin kabhi bhi kisi indicators par maine 100% trust nahi kiya hai, main janta hoon, indicator se aaye huye signal sabhi sahi nahi hote hai bhai.

fxbirati
2015-06-27, 11:20 AM
My friend if we get a good indicators which works 100% then we may make huge money from the forex trading and we should know that indicators help us to understand the market sentiment and trend of the market.

sunila
2015-06-27, 11:39 AM
bilkul sahe kaha hai ap nay yaha par humy koi ik strategy make karni hoti hai jis pr hum chalty hain magar har ik strategy ka apna ik rule hota hai kam karny ka tou us k mutabiq he wo chalti hai aur usi k mutabiq he us mai money hum earn kar sakty hain is leyay mughy lagta hai humy bas is par kafi dehan sai he apni strategy ko apply karna chayay..

Tselim
2015-06-27, 01:27 PM
Indicators are can tell me, what movement on the market. then, we want to analysis on the indicators what indicator did you use it's depend on you. But, i like all time MACD and i flow on the indicators maximum time and i do also analyze on the indicator, and maximum time i got big profit.

mnaeemfx
2015-06-27, 01:46 PM
In my opinion that I dictators are best. We are first to apply the demo account. We are find out the three to four best indicators. Then we are again work on the demo account. We are found the best and its indication is more than 75%. Then you can trust it. You can use it regular base.

sayinifx
2015-06-27, 10:12 PM
forex market me trader sirf indicator par depend rakar kaam kar sakte hai to yaha par loss kar sakte hai kyunki indicator hamesha market ke sath kaam nahi deta hai kai baar market me indicator wrong signal deta hai jise loss hota hai.

neil92
2015-06-28, 11:49 PM
bhai main indicators ke sath mein trading jarur karta hoon, lekin kabhi bhi kisi indicators par maine 100% trust nahi kiya hai, main janta hoon, indicator se aaye huye signal sabhi sahi nahi hote hai bhai.

Bhai jii ndicator par hum 100% trust nahi kar skatey hai humein khud se bhi thoda mind use karna hota hai agar hum bina sochey samjhe indicator par trust kar ke trade open kartey hai toh humein kaafi loss ho sakta hai bhai isliye humein khud se bhi analysis kar lena chaiye ek baar.

Afridi The King
2015-06-29, 02:35 AM
agar app ko trust akrna hy kisi indicator par tou app k uye karna chey kap ko aik se ziad indiacators use karne chaye is se apko fiadai hota hy

hocare
2015-06-29, 06:26 AM
you need always a plan because planning and management of your account and deals can always make your loss became smaller and do not always trust indicators cause the market is so unpredictable and not a place where you can put your trust on whaterver you read onligne

Faisalaziz
2015-06-29, 06:39 AM
app ka point bohit hi ahim hai.aksr ye soorty haal new members k saath paish ati hai.is baat ko hamysha yaad rakhi k idicators sirf marker ka andaza lgany k lye istimaal krain in per 100% depend krny ki koi zroort nahin hai.news ko read karin anaylsis ko read karain pir hud faisla kr k trade lgain.

fxbirati
2015-06-29, 07:59 AM
This happens with newbies many times. When they come across some new strategy , put on their trust .And results in loss.
What you think about it ?

My friend if we get a 100% indicators working for detecting the trend of the market then we can make good profit from the forex trading and we can be a successful trader in the forex trading. So I think we need to develop a trading strategy always.

din224957
2015-06-29, 08:55 AM
This happens with newbies many times. When they come across some new strategy , put on their trust .And results in loss.
What you think about it ?

if we trust any indicator 100% then we will get success in our trading account we can become the good earner in the trading, trading results can become effected by the indicators.

M.USMAN
2015-06-30, 06:25 AM
Indicators per traders 100% trust nhi karty.Indicators ko use karna perfectly ata ho ga tu wo good result de ga.Indicators ko samjhna her trader ka different hota hai.Some traders indicators ko samjh nhi patay.Our wrong trade open ker detay hai.

pentkor
2015-06-30, 07:31 AM
its nothing but foolishness to trust and indicator 100% as doing so will give you nothing but loss in time when the market is not predictive as it in general and which happens quite oftenly. but you can use them in different to check theirusefullnes..

I think it's not as bad indicator, the indicator does not always give a true signal, but indicators are also very helpful to analyze. but it is better not trust 100% the indicator, we must learn the indicators so that we know when to follow the signal of the indicator, and when we have to analyze the market without indicators.

fxbirati
2015-06-30, 08:09 AM
well 100% trusting on indicator is not good.
first we test that particular indicator in demo account and we also use our brain when we are trading.
indicator many time give us false signal batter we use then with combination other indicator.

I am agreed with you that trusting an indicators for 100% is not good at all, we need to use more than 1 indicators to confirm the trend of the market and we need to trade with discipline always and if we can trade with proper discipline then we can make unlimited amount of money.

rachid forex
2015-06-30, 08:09 AM
Indicators is just a guide. the important things is how you plan your strategy using each indicators and what type of trader are you.
I think when we get technique we have adhere to this in trial consideration

zef619
2015-06-30, 09:28 AM
I think to trust on any indicators 100% can be the foolishness and a trader must be in trouble in future because some indicators are not perfect to give good signals on daily basis so we have to use our own analyses.

indiantiger
2015-06-30, 10:29 AM
bhai mein toh yeh kahunga ki kabhi bhi kisi bhi indiactor ko use hi na karein aur agar kar rahe hain toh reliable mat samjhein 100% kyunki iss field mein loss kabhi bhi ho sakta hai aapko iss field mein zarori hai ki soch samajh ke kaam karein.

bodaa
2015-06-30, 11:13 PM
we end up in loss or margin call. since in this market there is nothing like 100% accurate indicator exist, so we should never believe in any Indicator so much. It is always better to use a bunch of good indicators to make the trading

wajid.ali788
2015-06-30, 11:20 PM
nahi hume aesa samjhna zror chahye hota hai k humaray lye business kesay chala hai aur kb tak humaray lye ye business kesay he humaray lye he sub kuch he hota chala jata hai yehi behtreen kam hai.

fxmoney
2015-07-01, 06:10 PM
when you trust one indicator then you must have to check its signal with the help of the fundamentals and technicals so that you will not place the trade in the wrong direction and make loss from your trade. so try to crosscheck it always

dareking
2015-07-01, 06:50 PM
bhai agar jo hum indicator ke sath mein trading karte hai, to us par kabhi bhi aap 100% ka bharosa rakh karke trade na kare, wo humare liye acha nahi hota hai, indicator kafi jayda fake entry dete hai bhai.

fxjais
2015-07-07, 02:03 PM
Indicators par 100% trust kiya ja sakta hai magar aapko bhi forex market ki movement ko watch karate rahna hoga, agar indicators achche hai to uss par faith kiya jaa sakta hai magar good money management use karani hogi.

forexforum1000
2015-07-07, 02:26 PM
It is the good threat that when i trust to any indicator and follow this some time it goes in my favor but mostly it goes wrong for me and i face loss.But it help me to learn more about the market and give some knowledge to the next.

aspurlah-forex
2015-07-07, 02:58 PM
I think we should not believe 100% to any indicator that available in market now. Even they are free or paid one. We must test it at least in 6 months before used it in real account.

fxearner
2015-07-07, 03:24 PM
forex trader ko kabhi bhi kisi bhi indicator par 100 percent trsut nahi karna chahiye kyunki aise me bahut baad wrong fake signals bhi market me bahut milte hai,yahan trader ko apna bhi analysois experience market me use karna aana chahiye..

forexlive
2015-07-07, 04:43 PM
bai saab ji forex mai app koi v indiaceter se trde karlo par app ko wo indiaceter live market mai koi or signal deh ga fer offline chart par koi or signal deh ga bai saab ji forex ek best bussiness hai hum es kam mai hard work se hee acha paisa kama sakte hai bai saab ji forex ek worldwide bussiness hai es kam mai hum hard work se hee acha paisa kama sakte hai tabi app es kam mai koi v indicater ko samj sakte hai bai saab ji forex ek best bussiness hai bai saab ji

M.USMAN
2015-07-08, 05:26 AM
Indicators per agar me 100% trust karo our really wo 100% true ho tu me maximum earning karo ga.Trading me asa nhi hota.Traders ko indicators ka pata hota hai.Our indicators 100% true nhi hotay.In say help tu bohat milti hai.

sheilahawari
2015-07-08, 08:43 AM
if i trust any indicator than anything may chance since Forex Trading can not be predictable supported on one indicator. we must hold into record additional indicators instead of trusting one indicator blindly. if we faculty use indicators with undersize dimension frames same 15m or 5 m then we real possess to view 1h or 4 h charts before we gift use the signals generated from them.

fxmoney
2015-07-08, 11:00 AM
when you trust on any indicator then you must have to follow it properly so try to use that indicator with the rules of it so that you will not make any mistake and lose from your trading. so always practice it on the demo account first then try to trade on real.

khan221
2015-07-08, 11:41 AM
jab ap kisi be indicator py yaqeen krty ho wo be100% to last py wo apko loss he krwata hy me abi tk indicator ko use kr rha ho mgr all the time ye phly to apko wo signals daita hy jab market up ho to yeapko down show krta hy.....

harp82
2015-07-08, 01:46 PM
I think in the market nothing is 100%. But with the help of we can guess the market and take a position with tight stop loss.

fxmoney
2015-07-09, 11:53 AM
when we trust any indicator then we must have to singal given by that indicator with the fundamentals and trechnicals so that we will not take the wrong trade but take proper trade and gain good income from it.

fxearner
2015-07-14, 03:33 PM
forex market me trader kisi bhi indicator par 100% trust nahi kar sakta,ye market bahut he jada khatarnak hai,yahan trader ko bahut he jada achhe se market me samajhkar chalna hoga,agar trader yahan sabb jaanta hai to uske baad he wo indicator ko bhi apne liye use kar sakenga..

Efat2rh
2015-07-14, 03:49 PM
I agree with you.Most of the new trader always find any good strategy. If they get a good inducator they believe this inducator 100%. But after some day they use this and fall a problems and most of the time loss is happen. Actually i was also face this problems sometimes.

sunila
2015-07-14, 09:42 PM
Indicator pr believe krna mughy nhi lagta hai k sahe rahta hai hamary leyay lkio k hum agar yaha pr fear hp kr chal lain gay to kafi sahe rahta hai hamary leyay aur kafi indicator time any par fake move daity hain is leyya candles stickpr bhi nazar rakhna lazmI hai...:(

seahawks90
2015-07-14, 09:50 PM
bhai mein toh yeh kahunga ki iss field mein kabhi bhi kisi hi cheze pe poora yakeen na karein agar aap aisa karte hain toh aapko iss field mein loss ho sakta hai mein toh yeh kahunga ki iss field mein agar accha paisa kamana chahte hain toh dhaya se karein sab ismein.

xaxi
2015-07-16, 03:47 PM
well I personally think in forex trading indicators are our best friends in trading and we have to trust fully on them. but the condition is to know how the indicators work and what are its pros and cons. Even the best and the most successful traders will fail if they trade without indicators or dont trust the indicators.

Medo.Forex
2015-07-16, 06:55 PM
I think when you trust any indicator 100% then you must have to place your trade with proper Stop Loss and take profit so that you will not lose from the wrong trade so try to understand the importance of the proper money management.

fx4somethin
2015-07-16, 07:03 PM
If you trust any indicator 100% you might be very surprise that one day you'll meet your water-loo. I have indicators combined on my chart and I know how i work with all of them to give me my desired result. That is why sometimes we say trade with indicators and not a single one.

Nawaj hussain
2015-07-16, 07:27 PM
100% trust krna indicatore me ye profit ko loss krwana hua baat hai.agr trading k wqt 100% indicatore mai depand ho jaye or us k badh thoda profit mai overconfident ho jaye to humra account wash ho jayega..indicatore ki sahayat lo pr 50% hi rakhna chaiye or acchi knowledge k sath hi trade mai entre honna chaiye

xaxi
2015-07-17, 12:54 AM
well my dear I personally consider some indicators are helpful to traders. Although not accurate all the time but still they are my favorite tools when waiting for signals to enter the market. The best way is to combine several indicators to obtain much accurate signal.

M.USMAN
2015-07-17, 01:36 AM
Trading me indicators traders ki big help kartay hai.Indicators traders ko sirf indicate karty hai.Yaha per wo 100% correct nhi hotay.Traders ko indicators kay sath sath apny mind ko bhi use karna chahey.

dafi
2015-07-18, 12:20 AM
dear I strongly believe its true that its not that bad or suffocating for your trading, if you even trust your indicator 100 percent actually if you know how to read it, you will make good profit, but if you dont trust your indicator you may take a wrong decision, but the best thing is to run a combo of indicators.

xaxi
2015-07-18, 02:18 PM
well bro for me i never believe 100% in any indicator. because i think there is no indicator that might be trusted 100% percent because you have to combine many other technical studies with any indicators signal to take the final action.

fxmoney
2015-07-19, 10:40 AM
It is not good thing to trust indicator 100% as due to which you can take wrong trade so you must have to confirm the signal with the help of the fundamentals so that you will be confident about your trade.

sunila
2015-07-19, 04:42 PM
bilkul sahe kaha hai ap nay kio k mughy yaha par aysa lagta hai k humy full indicator nahe mil sakta hai kio k humy yaha par bhut he achea strategy find karny ki zrurat hai kio k yaha par kafi trader aksar ayse mistake karty hain kio k yaha par hum koi bhi indicator par full time trust kar laity hain jou k bilkul sahe nahe hao..

gin
2015-07-20, 12:51 PM
my dear actually in forex I believewe need to also believe the indciator, but some time we need to make the analysis too when the indciator is giving us the signal, because not all of the time the indciator is giving to us the good signal some time they are giving us the bad signal on our trading too so this is not good.

rizwan009
2015-07-20, 12:54 PM
Brother ki be indicaoter 100 % work nhi krta in sey just help milti hy but ye 60 to 70 % work kerty hian but news key tym ye totali tor per fail ho jaty hain mai kabi be kici be indicator per trust nhi krta just own trade krta hon .

sayinifx
2015-07-20, 07:04 PM
market me trader kisi bhi indicator par 100% trust nahi kar sakte hai yeh market bahut jada risky hai es liye trader ko market me achhe se samjhkar chalna hoga, agar trader yaha par sab kuch jannlete hai to fir trader yaha par achha kar pate hai.

Rehman12
2015-07-20, 07:24 PM
dear i never use any indicators and there is no need i feel and i only trade personally and i never feel that indicators can be helping for my trades so i am happy with my simple trading techniques

salim16
2015-07-20, 07:42 PM
When have confidence in just about any indication 100%, next big loss arrive and you'll not manage to retrieve. I really do not discover indication that provides 100% indicate which is genuine. Constantly a number of defect inside indicate for a while connected with indication. Trust indication 50% along with utilize little chance whenever exchanging together with indication indicate.

a_for_apple
2015-07-20, 07:49 PM
actually a lot of ways of trading that we can use, one of which is a trading system by utilizing an indicator for trading
and if we use indicators, of course, we must be 100% confident with the indicator. but we also have to remain rational use money management to survive

fxbirati
2015-07-20, 07:52 PM
This happens with newbies many times. When they come across some new strategy , put on their trust .And results in loss.
What you think about it ?

Firstly I do not trust any indicators 100% but if I can trust 100% to any indicators then I can make huge money from the forex trading but now I need to understand the trend of the market with more than 2-3 indicators.

dailyforex
2015-07-20, 08:21 PM
there are many indicators in the market available at the moment some of them are really profitable and some results in losses so the best part is to check the strategies behind it and test the strategies in the different currencies pairs and different market conditions .

sino
2015-07-21, 06:31 AM
yes my dear I actually consider that no signal in forex can be 100% accurate . some of the signal may be 50% accurate but do not prefer indicator . Trader have to depend on their own analysis . they have to learn fundamental and technical analysis . depend on indicator only can make huge lose .

zani
2015-07-21, 11:59 AM
Dear, of course I do believe you can not rely on a single indicator, and thus the ratio because there is no good index or ratio so honest, and certainly that if that happens, you will lose because of the dependence on the index only.

fxbirati
2015-07-21, 12:32 PM
I think we need to trust on our trading strategy and not on the trading indicators and we should develop a trading strategy to get success in trading and if we can trade with proper knowledge then only we can understand the true trend of the market.

TIMOR
2015-07-21, 01:08 PM
help of we can guess the market and take a position with tight stop loss with the fundamentals and technicals so that we will not take the wrong trade but take proper trade and gain good income business.

lokeshkharb
2015-07-21, 01:10 PM
I always relied on a large number of indicators is not good to rely on only one indicator, but rely on a number of indicators give the same results at the same time it is very good and gives you a strong entry point am certainly not believe 100% about signal if signal is accurate after that all gain a simply optimum benefit. signal a little while help anyone and many period this is not finest for you personally with the actual employed connected with signal anyone loss.

sino
2015-07-21, 04:06 PM
well of course I actually consider that then it will be risky and all indicators may not be true all the time so i think it is very dangerous to depend 100% on indicators so better not to depend on them and just take them as a suggestion and trade with good analysis of the market.

gin
2015-07-21, 09:46 PM
well actually I strongly consider indicator many time give us false signal batter we use then with combination other indicator. So 100% trusting on indicator is not good. first we test that particular indicator in demo account and we also use our brain when we are trading.

zani
2015-07-23, 08:00 PM
dear for me I think in forex trading I do not trust indicator 100% because it usually indicator only takes Previously data to make price predictions in the future,so If any indicator is 100% perfect then everybody trade in forex will become millionaire

dareking
2015-07-27, 11:27 AM
bhai forex market mein koi bhi indicator is tarah ka nahi hota hai, jismein kisi bhi trader ko bhai 100% earning karne ko mil jata ho, agar aisa indicator hota to bhai sabhi forex market se kama kar le jate bhai.

cottenmix
2015-07-27, 11:35 AM
bhai 100% trust indicator par nai kar skhaty hai q k yai some time hum ko wrong tarde trnd b show karty hai indicator say hum just ik idea laty hai trade open karnay ka us k sath hum ko market news ko b anaylsis karna chai k kia trnd hai is ko b follow kar k apny plan ko set kar k trade open karna chai hai sirf indicatro par trust nai karhain..........

ASHOK
2015-07-27, 12:16 PM
trading sirf indicator se hisab se nhi krnhi chiye, mjhe ye lgata hai ki news pe bhi dhyan dena chiye qki khai bar aisa hota hai ki indicator alg bta rha hota hai or piche news aagyi kuch or to loss hone ke chance bad jate hai, hume trading bhut dhyan se krni chiye trading ke liye sirf indicator kaffi nhi hai.

true
2015-07-27, 12:19 PM
yes i would like to say here that indicators are very helpful for all the traders in forex trading but keep in mind that the indicators may also be wrong so you must never depend upon the indicators only so you must also work hard in forex

Lubna Fahim
2015-07-27, 12:47 PM
This happens with newbies many times. When they come across some new strategy , put on their trust .And results in loss.
What you think about it ?

Jahan tak mera trading experience hai main ye jaanta hoon k koi bhi indicator long term profitable nahi hota hai zyada tar indicator lagging indicator hotey hain jab trade achi khasi progress me aajati hain tab signel generate kartey hain aur sab past performance ko show kartey hain, maine bhi shuru me kaafi indicator based trading ki hai aur kaafi loss uthaya hai.

Decent
2015-07-27, 01:00 PM
no iam not interut any indicator iam use manual trading forex bohat risky hai hamye phle learn karni cahye forex trading ma jtna zeyada risk lay gauy utna he zeyada kamaye gay .

Fxawesome
2015-07-27, 01:19 PM
Well, what I think we should be knowing about indicators is that they are good way of trading and getting to make money from forex trading. But I don't think we should trust them and trade with them blindly, I mean there should be some rules which we are making use of when trading with indicators.

pentkor
2015-07-27, 01:40 PM
if there is an accurate indicator of 100%, all traders can get success easily, but I am sure, there is no 100% accurate indikatior, each indicator has advantages and disadvantages of different

it is true that there are no indicators that have 100% accuracy rate. even many indicators that often give false signals. and my advice not to rely on indicators fully in the trade, must also rely on our ability to analyze market movements. because it also will be important information for making decisions when trading.

Nawaj hussain
2015-07-27, 01:47 PM
Trading pr indicatore k upr 100% choor k kam karna humre lia sahi nahi hai ye bahut hi nuksan dila sakta hai jo humy bahut problem hogga..eslia indicatore ka use humesa 50 tak hi rakhna chaiye or bakki ki khud ki baanani chaiye jis se hum accha kar payenge...

rana53
2015-07-27, 02:01 PM
if i have a full trust then i think that i have earned a lot of profit and enjoy my whole life thing else but it is too wrong because in this way no one can try to learn this and every one will get the money by this way and enjoy their life so that i like this business very much

sunila
2015-07-27, 06:22 PM
market mai indicators ko bhut he dehan sai humy daikhny ki zrurat hai kio k humy yai cheeze samjhni hoti hai k hum agar indicators par he depend rahy gay tou kabhi bhi is field mai agy tak nahe ja sakty hain bas yaha par humy har cheeze ko samjhny ki zrurat rahti hai tabhi he kuch best ho sakta hai hamari trade mai...

bhattipak
2015-07-27, 06:24 PM
there is no certainty in this life are all part of the uncertainty and I think this will make us a good trade if we're aware that there will never be perfect in our trade that we have to do is how we manage risk.

fx4somethin
2015-07-27, 06:27 PM
Indicators are better combined for a real profit and a true trend. As we all know that most of these indicators are lagging in their signals. So, it will be very dangerous to trust any indicator 100% . Just allow for two or three indicators and wait to see a confirmation by all of them.

shribalajimaharaj
2015-07-27, 10:43 PM
bhai forex market mein koi bhi indicator is tarah ka nahi hota hai, jismein kisi bhi trader ko bhai 100% earning karne ko mil jata ho, agar aisa indicator hota to bhai sabhi forex market se kama kar le jate bhai.

indicator kabhi bhi 100% earning nahi karwa sakte hai usse fayeda to hai par 100% nahi keh sakte hai trader ko khud se bhi karna hota hai trader ko apni knowledge ke sath bhi kaam karna hota hai tabhi wo yaha par earning kar sakta hai

M.USMAN
2015-07-28, 04:16 AM
Trading me indicators 100% true tu nhi hotay.But indicators jitna indicate kartay hai.Ous say hi trader many benefits get kar saktay hai.Indicators always true bhi nhi hotay.Traders ko indicators ka use achay say ana chahye.

arhamkhanzzz
2015-07-28, 05:47 AM
to phr kafi acha hosakta ha mere khayal se app kafi acha earn karsakte ho phr trading ki dunya me and kafi agey se agey barh k trade bhi karsakte ho so hume chaiye k hamesha trading me bht agey barhen and acha earn karne ki koshish karen

forexlive
2015-07-28, 06:56 AM
bai saab ji app ko koi v es tara ka indicater nai mile ga jo es kam mai app ko 100% true singal deta hai es layi app indicater ko tabi samj sakte hai jab app es kam mai achi tara se es kam mai acha profit hasal karte hai fer app es kam mai achi earning kar sakte hai bai saab ji forex ek worldwide bussiness hai hum es kam mai acha paisa kama sakte hai bai saab ji

maryam2562
2015-07-28, 11:27 AM
yes this forum for new traders to learn and also to ask any question that might be very confusing because there are many traders who are willing to assist with some answer

zego ze
2015-07-29, 05:32 PM
we end up in loss or margin call. since in this market there is nothing like 100% accurate indicator exist, so we should never believe in any Indicator so much. It is always better to use a bunch of good indicators to make the trading

csdsu09
2015-07-31, 05:24 AM
I dont think you should trust because aise hi kisi indicator ko trust karna aap ke liye bht zyada risky bhi ho sakta hai kiu ke zaruri ni ke har indicator hamesha theek bhi hi kabhi kabhi kuch bhi hojatah ai jab market sai ni hot ito phr kuch bhi possible hai aur aap phr kuch bhi kar ni sakte forex market mai islye i think its risky

dd super
2015-07-31, 09:28 PM
am not well versed with using indicators but i know we should not believe 100% on any indicators and always remember that unexpected results are possible, even some time market give wrong signals which indicators may project as an opportunity and many traders due to wrong signals from indicators may get into

sayinifx
2015-08-07, 03:26 PM
Agar trader sahi se indicator ko use karte hai to market me indicator 100% true signa deti hai lekin trader ko market me news aur history ko bhi dheyaan me rakhta hu kaam karni chahiye tabhi sahi se market me trade kar sakte hai.

Ankit
2015-08-07, 03:54 PM
I think this is true we must not trust only one indicator as indicators are used with many other indicator for the confirmation. And Indicators works good in larger time frame and I think we must use those indicators with each other and must use with other indicators fibo, bollinger bands and rsi are important indicators so we must use them and earn some good pips.

highflown004
2015-08-07, 04:05 PM
trust 100% on indicator is not good. Indicator can help you but indicator are just little idea to understand market and idea have little changing in every time so work with indicators but these are 100% correct is not sure just watch indicator to understand market.

fxbirati
2015-08-07, 04:09 PM
Be practical brother, we need not to trust any indicators 100% because there is no indicators in the world that gives us 100% accuracy, we have to take decision on the market situation and have to trade with good money management.

arsalan5400
2015-08-07, 04:25 PM
Asssalaommm-o-AAalikumm my dear friend price action is one the simple effective method of treadinng that
most tecnhical teadres mnegelet learn them and see the diff...........

tanu003
2015-08-07, 05:27 PM
Actually there are no such indicators, which are give 100% accurate prediction. So that we traders should use our own talent and skill with experience and trade in trading account, and also always follow the indicators means a big loss will arise. We should verify the indicator in demo trading account.

bogelfx
2015-08-07, 06:34 PM
if no indicator is 100% accurate, then all traders will be successful trader in the forex market, but until now I never get a 100% accurate indicators forex market, but I just tried to comply with the trading rules of the indicators that I use

forexlive
2015-08-07, 07:33 PM
bai saab ji es kam mai app ko koi v es tara ka indicater nai mil sakta hai jo es kam mai 100% sahi signal bata ho es kam mai indicater ko samjne ke layi app ko es kam mai hard work karni pade ge fer app es kam mai acha paisa kama sakte hai bai saab ji forex mai ek hee din mai trillion dollar tak ki amount waste hoti hai hum es kam mai displine se acha paisa kama sakte hai bai saab ji

pentkor
2015-08-07, 07:45 PM
There isn't a indicator that may provide 100% correct prophecy, and also the indicator is usually as well delayed. Have confidence in your indicator won't harm, but we've got to understand while we've got to put End Loss. Because Indication is just not fully genuine.

it's true, sometimes the indicator gives a false signal, so better do not 100% trust indicators, should also be able to understand the movement of the market as well. because after all it is an indicator only tools. and if you want to use indicators, test in the demo account first, understand well the character indicator.

M.USMAN
2015-08-08, 01:51 AM
Wasy tu hum indicators per 100% trust nhi kar saktay.Indicators tu sirf indicate karty hai.Our traders ko apny mind ko bhi use karna hota hai.Hum sirf indicators say hi successful nhi hotay.Infact hum other tools ko bhi use karty hai.

exceedingpips
2015-08-08, 02:30 AM
If you trust an indicator 100% then you will lose heavily. Indicators are not to be trusted 100% because they normally lag raw price data. Indicators delay in giving signals and by the time they give signal, price must have moved a great deal.

pakpa
2015-08-08, 08:00 AM
if no indicator is 100% accurate, then all traders will be successful trader in the forex market, but until now I never get a 100% accurate indicators forex market, but I just tried to comply with the trading rules of the indicators that I use

Yeah, there are no indicator which can give us accurate signal or analysis, then actually we can't depend on it. But in other side, not matter how good is our trading analysis, we still can't make 100% accurate analysis also

dareking
2015-08-08, 11:46 AM
Forex markeet mein is tarah ka koi bhi indicator nahi hota hai, jis par hum 100% depend hoakr ke kaam kar sakte hai, bas yaha par indicator ka istemaal jo janta hai, wo achi trade kar sakta hai bhai.

hyder
2015-08-08, 11:57 AM
yar ma forex trading ma kisebi indenters par tust nai karta ho kue k ma price action trader ho our ma price action ko like karta our indicators ki dislike karta ho

fxbirati
2015-08-08, 12:06 PM
My friend we know that there is no such indicators that can produce the future trend of the market and we need to use the indicators to analyse the market and to findout the trend of the market and if we could then we can make huge money.

naziakhan
2015-08-08, 01:29 PM
yar ma forex trading ma kisebi indenters par tust nai karta ho kue k ma price action trader ho our ma price action ko like karta our indicators ki dislike karta ho

achi baat hay k ap price action ko use kar k trading karty hay ,ya such ma ek acha tariqa hay market ma trading karnay ka es sa hum acha paisa kama sakty hay bhaiya g bus hamay achi tarha seekhna hota hay .:)

sunila
2015-08-08, 02:47 PM
Bilkul sahe kaha hai apny humy yai cheeze ko kafi achea tarah janny ki zrurat hai k yaha pr hum agar is bt ko mind mai rakh lain k hum is mai kese strategy pr long time believe nhi kry gy to hamary leyay theak rahta hai kio k kafi indicators repaint hoty jain...

gunak
2015-08-11, 03:27 PM
can make the dolar is good ways alwasy help you win .It may help you win for a long term,but it will not let you win all the time.have you ever thought that if there exists an indicator can help traders win all the time,I think all traders will use it and profit constantly.There will no need for professtional trader in forex.So do not beleive an indicator completely,it may hurt you so harmly in the end.

a_for_apple
2015-08-11, 05:46 PM
as long as we have a solid trading system, believe in the indicators that we use is not a mistake because we have clear limits on the use of capital and how the conditions are right to take a position on every occasion

Nawaj hussain
2015-08-11, 06:37 PM
bhai indicatore mai hume utni trust nai karni chaiye indicatore humre lia accha hai but ismai acche se work kare tbi ye accha hai mai manta hu ki humy indicatore mai 100 precent belive nahi karni chaiye mt4 mai bahut sare indicatore hai jo humy market ko accha samjhte hai eslia humy usmai kam to karna chaiye but 70 percent bakki apne hisab se dekhana chaiye

voipkolkata
2015-08-11, 09:13 PM
My friend, we know that indicators are showing the previous data of the market, we need to use the indicators to detect the market environment and if we can understand the market sentiment then we can make huge money.

M.USMAN
2015-08-12, 02:00 AM
Indicators per agar hum 100% trust karen tu hum huge earning kar saktay hai.But asa nhi hota.Indicators 100% tu true nhi hotay.Jitni help traders ko indicators say milti hai.Wo enough help hoti hai.Our traders ko sath me apni knowledge ko bhi use karna hota hai.

Yinky
2015-08-12, 06:49 PM
As a good trader, it is not good to depend on one indicator 100%, because those indicator use to fake out with time and it can be dangerous for your trading. Learn how to use multiple indicators at a time.

pentkor
2015-08-12, 07:30 PM
I think we dont need to trust the indicators all time because some time indicators not works properly and we may have bad results. so try to analyze the data from your skills then judge the right trend.

it is true, the indicator sometimes give false signals. so better analysis is based on what we saw with the candlestick. because I think candlestick give good information about price movements. No candlestick patterns that indicate the movement of certain very helps us to determine the movement of prices. but must be studied properly first.

offer
2015-08-13, 01:37 PM
yes brother i would like to say here that you must never trust on any indicator 100% because indicators may also be wrong and may lead you to the loss , however you can use indicators alongwith your trading plan to get your desired success

dareking
2015-08-14, 12:21 PM
agar hum kisi indicator par bharosa karke uske sath mein trading karte hai, to humare liye sabse pahle jo cheez jaruri hoga bhai wo ye ki hum us indicator ko achi tarah se study karle bhai, usko sikhe bhai.

maryam2562
2015-08-14, 02:13 PM
forex trading i am still confused by regulating the management of money if i had a margin of $ 200 how the target normal profit can i make in a week maybe you can help me set up with a good money management.

a_for_apple
2015-08-14, 04:18 PM
some people managed to achieve trading success by using an indicator, the indicator is actually not the main problem. but money management that we use. people who do not have good money management course will be difficult to obtain large profits without risking most of their capital

sunila
2015-08-14, 10:34 PM
Mere strategy kabhI ayse nhi hoye haik just ik he way pr chala jaye balky yaha pr jitna hum perfection mai a sakty hain utna he hamary leyay bhut he zruri hai always aur tabhi hi kuch sahe ho sakta hai yaha pr warna kafi problem ka samna krna parta hai....

bogelfx
2015-08-14, 10:40 PM
if there are indicators of a 100% accurate, then all traders can get success easily, but until today, I never did get no indicator is 100% accurate, all indicators have advantages and disadvantages of each

naziakhan
2015-08-14, 11:05 PM
agar hum kisi indicator par bharosa karke uske sath mein trading karte hai, to humare liye sabse pahle jo cheez jaruri hoga bhai wo ye ki hum us indicator ko achi tarah se study karle bhai, usko sikhe bhai.

bhai g kisi bi indicator ko agar hum achi tarha samjh kar use kary gay aur pahly us ki achi practice kary gay tu tab hi hum us per trust kar sakty hay bhaiya g ,waisy tust nh kia ja sakta hay bhaiya g .:)

wasim345
2015-08-15, 12:36 AM
nahi ma trust nahi krta 100% indicators par. 50% tak trust krna theek hay. koi b indicator asa nahi hay jo 100% accurate predictions kra. indicators to trend ko indicate krta hay k ya trend ho sakta hay is life ma to koi b future ke prediction nahi kr sakta. 50% hum indicator pr trust kra aur trade ko manage kra stop loss use kra

dareking
2015-08-15, 12:15 PM
nahi ma trust nahi krta 100% indicators par. 50% tak trust krna theek hay. koi b indicator asa nahi hay jo 100% accurate predictions kra. indicators to trend ko indicate krta hay k ya trend ho sakta hay is life ma to koi b future ke prediction nahi kr sakta. 50% hum indicator pr trust kra aur trade ko manage kra stop loss use kra

Bhai main to khair kahunga 100% kisi bhi indicators par vishwaas nahi karna chahiye bhai, acha hoga bhai hum pahle to indicator ka istemaal karna sikhe jab aayega to hum usse trading kar sakte hai bhai.

shribalajimaharaj
2015-08-15, 11:11 PM
Bhai main to khair kahunga 100% kisi bhi indicators par vishwaas nahi karna chahiye bhai, acha hoga bhai hum pahle to indicator ka istemaal karna sikhe jab aayega to hum usse trading kar sakte hai bhai.

pehle trader ko indicator ko samjhna bohot jaruri hota hai jisse ki trader trading mai uska use sahi se kar sake aur jyada tar indicator fake hote hai aur jo indicator acha ho uska hi use karna chahiye jisse ki trading mai uska fayeda bhi ho

asim.bashir
2015-08-15, 11:13 PM
dear friend.....Most of the indicators are true but some times they are not. I think a trader must have to take the risk of following the indicators in forex but with a very low amount of investment. Specially a new trader must have to invest a very low amount in forex to earn low profit from forex trading.............thanks

maryam2562
2015-08-15, 11:32 PM
Hi, I am completely new at Forex Market. I just start learning over the internet by Google searching my question. As a new learnr i must want to know those all point, how they work, for what they stand ETC.

Mubariz
2015-08-16, 01:33 AM
well 100% trusting on indicator is not good becouse no indicator 100% perfect and if we follow only indictor then big loss will come and you will not be able to recover. I do not see indicator that give 100% signal that is true. so we need to get more info all type news about forex..........

eniolafx
2015-08-16, 04:36 AM
There is know shortcut in the forex market to succeed but trader can copy the trader that is very good and become a successful trader.trader should just try to learn very well and they will succeed in the forex market trading business

forexlive
2015-08-16, 09:36 AM
bai saab ji es kam mai app ko koi v indiacetr es tara ka nai mile ga jo app ko es kam mai 100% singal deh sakta hai es kam mai app ko es kam mai acha experience hasal kar sakte hai bai saab ji forex mai app sab kuch hsal kar sakte hai bai saab ji forex ek acha bussiness hai hum forex mai apne sabi dreams ko compete kar sakte hai bai saab ji

eshaa
2015-08-16, 09:41 AM
Mery khyal main is ka result loss hi ho ga kun ke humy kisi bhi indicator ko itna follow nahin karna chaye indicators basically help ka liye hoty hain ka humy ye trend ka bata dety hain. jiss sa help lay kar humy khud apni trade set krna hoti hai. aur ak acha point sarh kar ka us par tra pla karna hoti hai aur manasib profit closed bhi.

trishabirati
2015-08-16, 10:19 AM
I think if we can get a good indicators then we can make good money with the using of this indicators but it is really tough to rely on any indicators for 100%. I think trading with the proper understanding of the market is needed always.

sim4exer
2015-08-16, 11:41 AM
developed by dr. george C. Lane, the Slow Stochastic measures the
closing price of a currency futures or Fx pair relative to its price range
over a given period. This measure is represented in a percentage format,
but unlike the rSI and Williams %r, Stochastics is depicted by two lines.

fxearner
2015-08-16, 12:09 PM
bhai g kisi bi indicator ko agar hum achi tarha samjh kar use kary gay aur pahly us ki achi practice kary gay tu tab hi hum us per trust kar sakty hay bhaiya g ,waisy tust nh kia ja sakta hay bhaiya g .:)

hanji indicator par agar trader practice karta hai to uske baad he wo ess business me achha kar sakenga,trader ko baar baar practice karne se he sahi galat ka market me pata chalenga tabhi wo yahan learn kar sakenga..

shahid079
2015-08-16, 12:17 PM
if you trust just one indicator than it will be not a good idea instead of this you should at least get the signal from the more than three indicator then you can confirm the buy or sell signal but you cannot rely just on indicator.

zani
2015-08-16, 02:47 PM
well dear actually in forex it is no doubt that I never fully trust indicator 100% because I've deterrent fooled by false signals given by the indicator, because for me the indicator is simply a tool in determining the direction of the trend and can not be used to achieve the desired profit.

pakpa
2015-08-16, 04:00 PM
Actually i dont trust any indicator, then i don't use any indicator. If beginer trust indicator, maybe they still can make profit, but they need to develop a good trading strategy and trading plan also if they want to depend on indicator only to make analysis

akash4u4ever
2015-08-16, 04:45 PM
kisi bhi indicator par 100% trust krna sabse badi bewkufi hai hmesha kam se kam indicator ka use kre kynki indicator hmesha sahi trade nae batate hai, aapko losses se bachne ke liye khud ko market main strong bnana hoga khud ki analysis se

Medo.Forex
2015-08-17, 05:59 PM
My friend, when you trust one indicator then you must have to check its signal with the help of the fundamental and technical so that you will not place the trade Forex in the wrong market direction and make loss from your trade, so try to crosscheck it always .