Hi newentry, yes you are right, we can judge our performance with others, i admit most of the traders that win those contests are good, but few also uses some manipulation techniques and some ea's that won't work on real account. So, don't think that you lost the competition but look out the overall gain of your account and drawdown you attained etc., even the top three traders at the contest i posted link of, accepted that they are using some ea's that don't work on live accounts, when i contacted them. thanks