Mannual trading are also for me a up down strategy - 'Make good wins one day - loose it all the next day' I never make constant profits on a uptrend thou. It works heavily on my patience and I eat up my nails from my fingers !!!!. I have bought all kinds of training books - dvd's that costs me 1000's of dollars allready. The markets goes up, when I go in for a long, yes offcourse it goes against me 'everytime in a 50pip SL'. I have bought then a couple of robots (best ranked on a couple of websites) Thou some of them placed on different currency pairs and i have backtested them for +- 2 years on each. Some of the robots trade twice a week and some once or twice a day. Even if they dont trade so often, they are all having a > than 80% winning rate. That is what counts on the end of the day !!!!!! to make small constant profits, after a month push the Lot size up with another 0.1. I have now all the robots on my live accounts - when some robots loose, the other makes it up etc.....