app kiya kehety ho ek he point par ager app buy or sell kartey ho main to esi taran se trading karta hn app ki kiya raye ha es barey main
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app kiya kehety ho ek he point par ager app buy or sell kartey ho main to esi taran se trading karta hn app ki kiya raye ha es barey main
that means you are trying to hedge or hedging, though its a bit complicated method to employ but if you could do it well then its a perfect way to trade.
Ek hi point pe trade karna vaise to forex me thik nahi hoga kyon ki sabhi pair me movement ek jaisi nahi hoti.ek point par trade karne se profit-loss me bahut differance ho jata hai.Gold me to ek point rakhna bhi risky hai.
What you have mentioned is called Hedging where a trader performs both the trades BUY and SELL at the same price levels.This is done if the trade is bad or when market trends are not clear.
yar es taran karne se app ko profit to ho ga par ek stage par app phanse jatey ho yeni k ager app buy wala option close kartey jao or wahin se dosra open kartey jao to phr ek stage par app phans jao ge or app ko phr margin call he aye gi or sara balance zaya ho jaye gaQuote:
Originally Posted by realfun07
Ic ko hedging khty hen aur ye strategy sirf jarorat k waqat use ki jati hy, aisa nhi hy k ap hr bar buy aur sell ko akhty he open kren ic trah apki trading kbi b improve nhi ho gi, hedging us sorat mn lgai jati hy jb apko clear signal mil jaye k price ap k against jaye gi aur ap apni position ko loss mn close nhi krna chahty.
Yes you are doing good it is safe trading and some time I also do this when market is unpredicted. But I always observe keenly when I do that type to trading because when prices return then I take one side profit and after that other loss recovering.Quote:
Originally Posted by simbagi123
When market is trading in a range and frequently showing ups and down two way position can be helpful, and after closing one position in profit you can wait for the another to return in profit and close that so you get good profit with minimal risk.
well if we talk buy and sell on only one point..then in my view if you can stay in front of your trading system like pc or laptop then its good..
if we add one thing more this is like hedging technic..
but if we want profit then we must close one position after some pips and again open other trade to recover already open trade loss...but its need continuty if you miss one chance then result is only losss.
i am afraid this is not hedging which involve multiple buy and sell positions with increasing lot sizesQuote:
Originally Posted by realfun07
yes it depends so you just have to observe the market and look for opportunity but yes if you are in long term then you can set your entry points for long term and exit points too so actually forex trading is all about taking profit on same points buys and same points sells, some times this range happens that we can find out when there is no big trend in the market so yes that is a condition in market and people do take advantage of thisQuote:
Originally Posted by yogesh
I do this but it is useful when market (pair) is in a narrow range and frequently moving up and down in such situation i can close long trades on one end and short on another in profit, but we should be very alert if we notice signals of range violation close those orders which may result into big losses otherwise.
ji haan jaise k aajkal aap eurusd dekho zyada volatility nahi to same points pe hi move kar raha hai aur aap chaho to is opportunity se faida uthao but yeh kab chale ga aisa keh nahi saktew but there be more oportunities too after that one; so just learn how to do it in long term in differnt conditionsQuote:
Originally Posted by yogesh
What you have mentioned is called Hedging where a trader performs both the trades BUY and SELL at the same price levels.This is done if the trade is bad or when market trends are not clear.
hmmm...
ok hedging means at the same point buy and sell position rakhna...
but I think k yeh to bohat risky hoga as yas to profit ziyada ho jayay ga ya phir kabhi loss ziyada...
becoz market change hoti rehti ha...
Buying and selling at the same point is too good but it should be done only when the price of a pair is range bound and you know that you can get profit from both buy and sell orders. Otherwise when there is a danger of correction or rely then we should avoid doing buy and sell at the same point.
Mujhe lagta hai agar aap ekhi point par buy aur sell karoge to aapka profit aur loss ka difference bohot badh jayega. Lekin ye method bhi acchi hai agar aapko profit kamana hai to. Lekin ekhi point par buy aur sell karna jara mushkil hai.Quote:
Originally Posted by simbagi123
i think that it is a good way of trading, because if market goes against your buy positions, then your sell positions will be good profit and you can take profit....and it is also a good way to keep your account safe...but it needs a good knowledge and good planning...because sometimes even market will not come down or up in few months...so then you have to close boy buy and sell positions at a certain level...so needs to read forex market...
me is baat se bilkul bhi sehmat nahi hon ki ek hi point pe buy aur sell karna thik rehta haiQuote:
Originally Posted by adahidayat
ek hi point pe agar ap buy aur sell karte ho to iska matlab aapko us point pe smajh hi nahi aa raha ki market ka trend kis taraf hai..aapko hamesha trend ke hisab se hi trade karna chahaiye...agar apko market ka trend hi nahi smajh me aata to aapko market se duur hi rehna chahaiye
Hedging should always end in lose. You can earn profit in some chances only. Huge beginners are losing their money by using Hedging in their deals with out proper knowledge. Hedging may useful for those who trade more than 5 years and also have some experience with hedging. If you are newbie, then use hedging only in demo and not in real until you become master in hedging.Quote:
Originally Posted by maliknas
I think This may work for any body, with positive results, when market is moving in a narrow band, and continue to do so. But an outbreak can really be fatal for such a trade.
we must make the trend as our friend ... trends in simple terms is the state of the market is going now. whether it's down trend, up or sideways trend. trend is not something we must an opponent, we need to do is follow the trend that is happening now, it will ensure our trading account can be safe and get the profit that could satisfy us,Quote:
Originally Posted by adahidayat
but if we take the fight against the trend, then there is a huge opportunity loss that awaits us. therefore before we do the OP / entry market, first do is analysis as well as possible with the market trend which is now happening. Do not enter the market if conditions are not sure
ye baat app nay bilkul sahi kahi, aesa koi bhi trader tab hi karay ga jab oss ko ye samaj naa rahi ho kay trading kaisay kerni hay. agar koi expert trader ho ga to wo to sari analysis ker kay phir hi aik side ka order lagaeyga.
its similar to hedging and you must be aware that hedging is very dangerous to apply in the trading because if you failed to use it propely then you may loose your whole trading account
yes it depends so you just have to observe the market and look for opportunity but yes if you are in long term then you can set your entry points for long term and exit points too so actually forex trading is all about taking profit on same points buys and same points sells, some times this range happens that we can find out when there is no big trend in the market so yes that is a condition in market and people do take advantage of this
yeh to meray kehyal sy situation pe depend karta hy k ap aik he point p sale or buy karty hen. meray kehayl sy is me wohi experience wala person he kr sakta hy is pe kaam without experience loss ka samna karna par sakta hy.
hedge is really complicated and i do not prefer to trade on this kind of trading the loss is still loss how ever hedge or make stop loss so keep it simple and trade with stop loss better.Quote:
Originally Posted by mayengbam
This is good way of trading when market is ranging. I also do the same when market is not making trend and price is oscillating between to points. This trading style is best for very short time trades and when the market is ranging.
It is the reversals that such traders are looking up to by opening those two trades together. Reversals can move up to 50 - 70 **** in some volatile pairs like EU, EJ and GJ trading pairs.Quote:
Originally Posted by realfun07
Its good idea . Market is always fluctuating so you can book profit for both movement . But before entering such trades you should study market because this strategy not works always .Also you should have spread free account otherwise you will end with no profit , just spread losses.
it is a type of hedging. but, it will work only on volatile situation only, in stable situation, this types of hedging will not wrk that much. so, be careful when applying this hedging. happy tradingQuote:
Originally Posted by simbagi123
ye baat app nay bilkul sahi kahi, aesa koi bhi trader tab hi karay ga jab oss ko ye samaj naa rahi ho kay trading kaisay kerni hay. agar koi expert trader ho ga to wo to sari analysis ker kay phir hi aik side ka order lagaeyga.
ek hi point par ham buy or sell ka order rakhege to ye trading hedging hogi.
jab hamari ek trade profit main hogi to dusri loss main hogi esliye esme jyda profit ke chance kam hai.
hame ek point par ek hi trade open karni chahiye or useme sl or tp lagana chahiye.
Yes, I think that I follow your trend of thought. Maybe I can hedge by open a position of 1 buy and 1 sell at the same price and then wait for good news release effect to open the on hedge and then watch the other one retrace. That way, one can make good profit from a hedged trade.
Yes you can do this. When 1 order will profit then you may close and you should to stay until other order recovering. Then you may gain. Other wise you can set stop loss and take profit.
well it all depends on market as all the time you will see differnt conditions in market and some times it will give you opportunity when market may have less volume then you will see you can easily make more profit with opening and closing positions on same prices but this is not the case all the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by rajabd
Yes, I think that I follow your trend of thought. Maybe I can hedge by open a position of 1 buy and 1 sell at the same price and then wait for good news release effect to open the on hedge and then watch the other one retrace. That way, one can make good profit from a hedged trade.
do you mean the hedge well i think that the hedge strategy is good in the valotile market and when the trend is not clear we just open the tow podition and wait till the clear of the market we close the deal that we think is bad and if there is no risk we can open an other one at the same direction with some lot size
Ah, hedging not perfect, hedging cause loss of account. Hedging make equity reduce and make fear into trading. I not like to hedge my trade because it is not good strategy to use. Hedging is like to gamble.Quote:
Originally Posted by mayengbam
When market is volatilie and prices are movving up and down it is hard to determine right direction i think it will pay to go long and short on same point as that will give us possiblity to book profit in both directions.