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forexpips
2011-12-11, 05:44 PM
Here a big question for beginner that what is starting investment
in which field they invest means ero usd etc
and which currency they trade and minimum lot volume etc .its very useful
forexman
2011-12-11, 05:47 PM
as a beginner i want to go with $10 and i wanna trade eurusd and gold.
anubhavsingh
2012-01-06, 12:00 PM
as a beginner i want to go with $10 and i wanna trade eurusd and gold.
aap 10$ se koi bhi trade nhai kar sakte..aur gold to bilkul bhi nahi kar sakte
kam se kam 50$ se tarding akroge to apko fayda hoga..10$ se kuch nahi hota forex me
aur agar aap naye tarderho to gold ko ekdum bhul jao..naye traders kel iye bas eur/usd hi sabse acha rehta hai
rinjani
2012-01-12, 01:49 AM
you should be able to understand the forex well with studying.
if you already understand the basis of trading, then you could only think to invest.
Should we be starting with a relatively small capital first ..
forexman
2012-01-12, 10:07 AM
i think for a beginner you can trade with pairs which you feel comfortable as no currency pairs are volatile all the time but trading lotsize of 0.01 will be very low risk of trading and i feel that would be safe as a beginner
drdeepakji
2012-01-12, 12:06 PM
as a beginner i want to go with $10 and i wanna trade eurusd and gold.
i think with 10 dollars in the account u cant trade gold if u dealing in instaforex..u need to have 150 plus margin to trade in gold as one pip value in gold is 10 cents....i have calculated this on traders calculator..
venkiaries61
2012-01-12, 03:09 PM
Starting Investment For beginner ?
Here a big question for beginner that what is starting investment
in which field they invest means ero usd etc
and which currency they trade and minimum lot volume etc .its very useful
You may invest 20$ in standard or in cent account. And try to trade with eur/usd only. And don't try huge spread currency and also metals. The lot size is according to my MM for $20 is .01lot size. Always wait for the right entry point and don't trade in rest of the time. All the best.
ngledom
2012-01-12, 05:24 PM
Since forex is a risky market and there are more chances for a newbie to loose money it is always advised to start with less capital and trade in small lot size. I think any amount between 50$ - 100 $ is ideal for a newbie to start with.
yes,i think with 100$ in our margin is good one.but if we want to make profit in trading activity,the most important part of this is have a good psychology trading.without that,our trading activity is no mean at all.try to test your strategy in demo account to knowing the best setting and the best time to use that strategy.it's need much time to discovered the best setting in our strategy trading.
yogesh
2012-01-15, 02:57 PM
Since forex is a risky market and there are more chances for a newbie to loose money it is always advised to start with less capital and trade in small lot size. I think any amount between 50$ - 100 $ is ideal for a newbie to start with.
Newbie should spend some time watching the market and trying to understand it, may be they may trade with little amount with lower margin so they get opportuny to exit on profitable level after some time in case trade goes wrong.
ericnyamu
2012-01-20, 10:31 AM
start small that is what i can tell you . . wen you are starting trading ( i mean starting with real money) you are doing into unfarmilar territory and a rugged territory indeed. and thus you'llnot want to invest allot of money because you donot know what will happen . its best you start with small account first
Investing $10-$20 will never help you to make profit . You will lose it in a day or two .
Better you invest $100 with 1:100 leverage . With this you can make nice profit .
Trading gold needs higher equity because gold market is so volatile .
fxquest
2012-01-22, 03:08 PM
Investing $10-$20 will never help you to make profit . You will lose it in a day or two .
Better you invest $100 with 1:100 leverage . With this you can make nice profit .
Trading gold needs higher equity because gold market is so volatile .
I dont think it would be wise for beginner to start with $100 as then they shall be putting all this to risk. To trade in gold at 100 leverage that is maximum allowed for gold trades, we need to have around 17$ capital for being able to open .01 lot, though in cents account you can do it for 1.7$ to open .1 micro lot. We get 30% bonus so even if we deposit capital like 13$ or little more and request 13$ bonus we shall be able to open 10 .1 lot trades in cents account.
muhammadatif
2012-01-22, 09:25 PM
As beginner aap ko chahiy keh aap minimum 200$ sy trading strat karo ager aap eyk acha start chahty hian to hamysha gold main trade karo or apna leverage 1:1000 per set karo,o warna forex trading to 10$ sy bhi start ho sakti hai bus ka koi fayda nahi.
afzal852
2012-01-23, 09:34 PM
If you are a new trader, first you should have complete knowledge of forex using practice on demo account then you can start with $ 10 only. Only focus on major currency usd, never increase from minimum lot until you got good experience in real trading. Slow and steady go in trading, never create greed which will destroy your money.
pooja
2012-02-05, 02:59 PM
Starting investment for a beginner trader varies from trader to trader. However, if I have to recommend, I would say that a beginner should invest $20 in a cents account and begin from there.
arihant
2012-02-08, 06:42 PM
As you are forex beginner you can't invest a large amount of capital and don't be greedy that if you invest more then you can able to make large amount of profit. The profit in forex trading is depend upon how you trade , so its better to invest less amount in starting , so that if suppose you suffered a loss you will not gonna loose your big amount of capital.
ali1011
2012-02-09, 03:36 PM
mera to yeh mashwara hoga k ap ko pehly form p post lagani cahiye jis sy apkay knowledge me be izafa hoga or ap ka capital be brabr ho jay ga matlb acha khasa ban jay ga or ap ko trading me lot size ka be koi problem nhi hoga.
rajabd
2012-02-09, 03:56 PM
All new forex trader first will loose, after demo trade we new seem we have confidence to real trade, I think first time should to invest 50 $ and observe market uro usd and uro jpy, then trade
amrikahuja
2012-02-11, 08:40 PM
me to manta hu ke kam se kam 80$ se 100$ se to shuru karna chaiye... usse aap khul ke trading kar sakoge aur aapko profit margin bhi acha milega to aapka self confidence gain hoga aur aap acha trade kar sakoge
mayengbam
2012-02-14, 03:04 PM
You may invest 20$ in standard or in cent account. And try to trade with eur/usd only. And don't try huge spread currency and also metals. The lot size is according to my MM for $20 is .01lot size. Always wait for the right entry point and don't trade in rest of the time. All the best.
Thats a perfect reply. Its always better to start small and the aim should be more on focusing to learn trading instead of making profit. trade with 0.01 lot sizes opening maximum 2-3 trades at a time and try to learn the market movements. thats a better way to start in my opinion
donofforex
2012-02-14, 04:44 PM
Here a big question for beginner that what is starting investment
in which field they invest means ero usd etc
and which currency they trade and minimum lot volume etc .its very useful
hnn main to gi apni khud ki money to kabhi bhi invest nahi karoun ga sahi baat ha kioun k mugh ko pata ha k yahan par mugh loss ho sakta ha esi liye main forum par posting kar k jo profit milta ha us se trading karta houn o r profit kamata houn ye acha tareeqa ha es se app ko tenssion nahi hoti ha k app ka balnce zaya ho jaye ga or mere khiyal mainstart k liye 10 usd achi raqam ha
ishvara
2012-02-14, 04:51 PM
Beginner can start with 50 dollars and then use cent accounts with lot sizes like 0.03 in their trades. This presents less risks and can give us help in keeping a stable trading results in forex reading.
rajabd
2012-02-14, 07:04 PM
For beginners investment may 50-100$ , because 90% new trader may loss. By loss or by profit after experience, they can invest as their ability. Then they trade EUR/USD, due to many information are available about that currenciy.
adahidayat
2012-02-14, 07:42 PM
i think that as a newbies , a person should invest at least 100 dollars...i think that it depends on your knowledge to select a currency pair...but i prefer to trade on euro usd...because market news and strategy is easy for this pair... i think that newbie should only open one or two positions....and do not over trade.......
dmambi
2012-02-14, 07:47 PM
A newbie should first invest his time in learning and practicing in Demo account.
Only after successful trading in Demo account one should invest his money in real account.
And i feel around $100 investment in cents account will be a good one to start real trading.
sangam
2012-02-14, 10:06 PM
I think better you make an investment with a small amount first, about $10-$50, and open cent or micro account, for the pair used better use major pairs, and the use of lot size is adjusted with the power of your capital and risk management that you specify
When less amount is at risk then the loss will also be limited. And most of the new traders are fearing that they get huge loss in the start. When using the cent accounts they will learn how to manage big amounts of money and this is what will teach them the effective use of the Money management skills.
GaruL
2012-02-14, 10:18 PM
I think better you make an investment with a small amount first, about $10-$50, and open cent or micro account, for the pair used better use major pairs, and the use of lot size is adjusted with the power of your capital and risk management that you specify
very good if we start investing in forex with a capital of about $ 50, with a capital account that we use in cents, so with a capital of about $ 50 we can do with a convenient entry and a large load can be reduced because our strength is large enough margin.
siberian
2012-02-14, 10:37 PM
For beginners investment may 50-100$ , because 90% new trader may loss. By loss or by profit after experience, they can invest as their ability. Then they trade EUR/USD, due to many information are available about that currenciy.
I am agree with you. For beginner traders, I suggested to use same amount too and I think it's not good idea if you invested
more than $100 for beginning trading because it's too risky to use more than $100 for beginner. Mostly traders couldn't control
their emotion well and then they got losses because of this condition.
clairienz2215
2012-02-14, 11:02 PM
Here a big question for beginner that what is starting investment
in which field they invest means ero usd etc
and which currency they trade and minimum lot volume etc .its very useful
As for me being a newbie, I go for $10 investment and try to trade with the euro/usd and preferably gold. It's not that much but It can really help you for your starting guide to trade. But don't take much risk, less leverage is much cautious than to take high, Trade well and earn with with it.
fxquest
2012-02-14, 11:21 PM
In my opinion beginner should not give much importance to how much profit they earn, but if they manage to earn small amount regularly they should be satisfied that they are good trader and then it will need just to add capital to increase profits.
realman
2012-02-15, 12:04 AM
Hello beginner please start from $20-50. Test your psychology in Forex market. Rating your skill. I think you will be able to invest next. Because after some days your metal power and skill will set for your investment policy. Forex can make you perfect if your skill can control this policy.
After all deposit depend on trader own capability.
ishvara
2012-02-15, 01:07 AM
In my opinion beginner should not give much importance to how much profit they earn, but if they manage to earn small amount regularly they should be satisfied that they are good trader and then it will need just to add capital to increase profits.
You have a real point here. A forex exchange trader that is still new to the business should never try to place importance to the amounts that they get as profits from forex. Investments does not necessarily mean the amount of profits.
ashwini
2012-02-17, 03:26 PM
as beginer dont jump to trade forex so quickly.. take ur time .to practice on demo for chek the stratagy, plan, indicators, ur moneymangement, news, etc. main sab kuch karte hue ek aur chis practice kia.. woh hain confidence gain karna.. on demo account. main apne plan ke sath sirf 5pips ka target leke trading. kia.. jo ki.. pure din main sirf ekbar trading karunga.. aur yeh main pure 50 days tak kia.. than 5pips se 10 aur 20pips tak ka trade kia .. isse mera confidence badha aur apne stratgy aur plan per bhi bharosha badhane laga main abb real account main sirf 10pips tp ka trade karta hun.. aur yakin maniye .. accha kamai. hota hain.
dmambi
2012-02-17, 06:00 PM
For a newbie who is still don't anything about Forex trading hardly any investment is needed. Yes a newbie should start his trading by Demo account without investment. One should think about investment only after consistent profit track record in Demo account for a period of 6 months. And again starting with around $100 investment is ok with cents account.
twinkling star
2012-02-17, 06:37 PM
you need to invest 50$ minimum. and go for the trade of eur/ usd in demo account and try to understand this graph, and think about how chart changes its positions also learn the basic indicators and also use the minimum lot size in every trade.
topfx
2012-02-17, 06:37 PM
In my experience when I started trading pair is not much to choose, I only choose one pair, because with such a pair I can learn it and move to understand market psychology.
wazid201118
2012-02-17, 08:19 PM
I have earned $100 i think its a matured figure for me to trade.I am first in forex so i will try to start my trade using only $100.And my first choose will be only Usd as i know greed is harful for the traders who has not yet been successful in this situation.Otherwise if i use another way for i may lose my capital which i have earned very hard working.
oscar
2012-02-18, 08:56 PM
before you start investing in forex, traders should learn on real accounts to test their trading strategy for several months ..
if it has a consistent profit, then the next can make a few dollars in investment accounts cent for trading psychological practice
atif58
2012-02-18, 09:11 PM
Newbie's starting investment should be 100$. And trade with 0.01 lot size. As losses are very probable in start so this money management will be safe for a newbie. Also you can start with 50$ but the lot size should not increase.
for starters they should trade on a demo account and practice before they go to a real account. in trade on a demo account new traders can find a formula that suits his trade and can generate profits consistently. and if a beginning trader has found a form of trade as described above, please use a real account trading in the trading strategy he used in a demo account
rahibul
2012-02-18, 09:55 PM
As a beginner can start by 50 $ . Must follow money management. Any one can start EUR/USD currency, because EUR/USD signal is available in the world financial news. And should to stay at forex forum India. Here you can discuss about forex and various currencies.
pravi
2012-02-18, 11:18 PM
Newbie's starting investment should be 100$. And trade with 0.01 lot size. As losses are very probable in start so this money management will be safe for a newbie. Also you can start with 50$ but the lot size should not increase.
What profit in dollars do we get for 1pip profit with an account having leverage 1:1000.
How do we calculate that? please generalise so that i could calculate for different conditions .
ishvara
2012-02-19, 02:10 AM
i am a member of instaforex and i hear that indian forex is a part of instaforex.thats why i am here.i deposit some money in instaforex and i am beginner.
I hope that you have made a very small deposit according to your trading knowledge. I say this because of the fact that we have no certain possibility that we would make profits in forex trading. Remember that we start little.
Tarek
2012-02-19, 02:41 AM
Here a big question for beginner that what is starting investment
in which field they invest means ero usd etc
and which currency they trade and minimum lot volume etc .its very useful
then you are a beginner in forex, you can invest at least 50 Dollars for the first time, if you invest a large capital gain for a large profit, you risked losing the forex market pays you on your way of negociation.
GaruL
2012-02-19, 02:33 PM
As a beginner can start by 50 $ . Must follow money management. Any one can start EUR/USD currency, because EUR/USD signal is available in the world financial news. And should to stay at forex forum India. Here you can discuss about forex and various currencies.
yeah, I think the beginner newbies should start a capital of $ 50. money $ 50 is not too big or too small. so is enough to make the best forex trading. and capital should be $ 50 in use in the percent of accounts. so that we can more easily manage a lot of money management issues most traders.
raja413
2012-02-19, 10:35 PM
if any one start with small deposit. he should at first demo practice. Makes his own way. because his account is small and he may can not recover his loss. a good profit what you want that will you not get by small deposit. But rather you should deposit small account.
TrojanFX
2012-02-19, 11:53 PM
You can also make some money bonus for your trading in the future.We can not possibly maximize trading profit for the year 2012 but probably will hopefully return the world economy improves.you can increase the leverage the greater experience in the Forex.It should be noted that traders should prove himself.
malik83
2012-02-20, 12:06 AM
before starting real trading beginners should practice on demo account to gain experience and then they should play real trading at minimum level and play their trade at right time and right place.
malik83
2012-02-20, 12:20 AM
in my point of view starting investment for beginners is not so much nor so less but one thing which is keep in your mind is that trading well in time and at the right place and avoid loss your trading and play trading in at that limit where you can survive your trading.
TrojanFX
2012-02-21, 09:12 PM
According to me starting a trade with 50$ is best for the beginners.And EUR/USD is the most comfortable pair for the newbie.Start with small lot volume , and increase it as your balance increase in profit.
Yes you are right. If you start with small balance then you can easily trade without any pressure. And on trading time you can easily control your mind. If you loss full balance on trading then you can easily fixed your mistake on next time. so small balance is better then use big balance on first time.
xiaotanghao
2012-02-21, 09:51 PM
As far as I am concerned,I think it will be good forex the beginners to trade with the demo account there.If you must trade with the real one.I think you can trade with USD there and invest $10 will be OK.
himel
2012-02-21, 10:08 PM
a good profit what you want that will you not get by small deposit. But rather you should deposit small account. if any one start with small deposit. he should at first demo practice.
trader_jambi
2012-02-21, 11:24 PM
Absolutely pack, trading with a capital little less well in forex trading. because we are often encouraged to get to that big though with little capital.
TrojanFX
2012-02-22, 01:04 AM
i think it is not good to have only 10 dollar to invest because this is very less amount and it is better that we should have more than 100 dollars at the start to trade. because less amount mean difficult tradings and less money to earn.
any number of important you should be able to bear the risk even though it's useless if you only make a deposit of $ 10 but when the weight loss you're experiencing stress, because it all has to do with the mind that are realistic and not so impossible
raka999
2012-02-22, 09:44 AM
I think, for beginner do not have to deposit too big. even, no need to deposit at all. capital of the bonus posting I feel have enough for a beginner. trading without any risk.
anubhavsingh
2012-02-22, 10:03 AM
Absolutely pack, trading with a capital little less well in forex trading. because we are often encouraged to get to that big though with little capital.
shuru ke dino me to choti capital hi achi rehti hai forex me..kyunki shuru ke idno me sbase zada chance hiote hai loss ke agar aapki investment choti hogi to aapko kam loss hoga
isliye har trader ko kaha jata hai ki shuru ke dino me chote account se hi shuru karna chahaiye..jaise ki 50$ ya 100$..fir experience ke stah investment bada deni chahaiye
balakalimuthu
2012-02-22, 11:26 AM
I started trading with just $20. i have traded EUR/USD, GBP/USD and AUD/USD. most probably these pairs moving in the same manner. my lot size was 0.01 or 0.02. but at your first stage of trading better not to wait till big profits.
Nice starting with Forex. InstaForex supports you to get well practice by providing you various bonuses. So, my view would be we need to utilize the great opportunities provided by InstaForex to get start with Forex for a perfect launch. The idea behind for these bonuses is to eliminate the stress on investing our own money. So, we need to utilize those perfectly...
niteshforex
2012-02-22, 01:41 PM
Starting investment for a beginner trader varies from trader to trader. However, if I have to recommend, I would say that a beginner should invest $20 in a cents account and begin from there.
amitnihalani
2012-02-22, 03:40 PM
mai is field mai naya beginner hu ........ krupiya aap muje bata sekta hai ki starting investment kaise kiya jata hai.......
can u tell me hw it is posibel for new beginner....... Starting Investment For beginner ?
TrojanFX
2012-02-22, 09:27 PM
Exactly, there are no suitable money to start this business. Just invest a money that you can afford to loss. For very beginner, we still didn't have enough experience, that why we need to learn it and try to get more experience. If we use our big investment and we loss, what to do? Once again, invest money that you can afford to loss only to start this business.
shapiraa
2012-02-24, 04:28 AM
think with wise and see the trader's ability and then they can take a decision for make big investment or not and then when they think that still have less knowledge, it is good if they make less investment just for to get learning and practicing to keep survive and even try to grow the balance with very well...
TrojanFX
2012-02-25, 12:02 AM
think with wise and see the trader's ability and then they can take a decision for make big investment or not and then when they think that still have less knowledge, it is good if they make less investment just for to get learning and practicing to keep survive and even try to grow the balance with very well...
Indeed less investment will giving less result also , but if trader have profitable system ,with less investment it possible will growth being huge money , but i think trade with huge capital will more having passion to strive and make good profit daily or weekly, but for newbie , in my opinion only spent money from small fund , it necessary to built psyvhology
mhiblaa
2012-02-25, 01:05 AM
i think that those are the basics of the investment on the forex trading so when you dont any experience i think that you can trade inb the demo account or incest till 10$ enough and about the volume dont risk more than 10% of your capitale
Tarek
2012-02-25, 01:34 AM
To Invest In Forex market, you need a lot of analysis, for what it is not enjoying every day, I advise you before investing in an account Pamm to see recent transactions to ensure your investment.
Abdomhadi
2012-02-25, 02:32 AM
yes it's so real investment for every beginner should not exceed an amount very high, the beginner should not want acquire level of an expert, but they must be content just what it can for me to have $ 12 a day is fine with 40 posts of course, but I know other positions to which perssones 100 post a day because he had come he has a level and have enough 'experiance that mienne.et veiled :)
ishvara
2012-02-25, 06:05 AM
Starting investment for a beginner trader varies from trader to trader. However, if I have to recommend, I would say that a beginner should invest $20 in a cents account and begin from there.
20 dollars is an amount that is very okay for a forex trading beginner. This would control their risk level and then give them a chance to learn forex trading directly from the live markets.
kampung
2012-02-25, 11:48 AM
As a beginner I recommended to start with 20USD and trade with AUD/USD 0.01 lots. I hope you can learn a lot with first four five trades.
I agree with your opinion that a beginner should use a low capital and $ 20 in trading capital I think it is good and will bring you to exercise without too much fear of capital loss that you received in the trade
muhammadfarooq
2012-02-25, 01:22 PM
for the beginner's less invest is more useful to start the forex trading business and you can get the more experience as you stay long term in forex trading, but better to use the demo account to better trading and best profit.
rosalia
2012-02-25, 01:24 PM
In my point of view, beginner didn't need to invest too much capitals in their first time of trading but if it is possible don't be too small
too. If it is possible, I suggested to use about $100-200 as starting point of investment so your account could be easier to manage and
the profit could be tasted when you are good in analysis.
TrojanFX
2012-02-26, 03:49 AM
I think 100$ is enough for trading with eurusd currency pairs.i think we can use 0.01 volume and we can safe at last 10K pips.so no need to worrie to trade eurusd currency.
kampung
2012-02-26, 12:41 PM
I think 100$ is enough for trading with eurusd currency pairs.i think we can use 0.01 volume and we can safe at last 10K pips.so no need to worrie to trade eurusd currency.
yeah it was really significant stuff enough to make us especially the crew of commerce using the lot size 0:01 Hanaya this will really make us have a good trading experience and it will last longer if we could use the discipline to keep the lot size 001
pritysharma
2012-02-26, 01:28 PM
It is better to invest only 10$-20$ to start as a new trader with a demo account.It is not for trading but to learn about the forex market.Then when a trader get some ideas about the forex market then they should start the forex business with her equity level to trade in forex market to earn money.
TrojanFX
2012-02-29, 08:43 PM
No amount is ever big enough to achieve the profits that we would like to have from forex trading, but nevertheless, we always should keep in mind not to invest more than we can afford to lose in Forex trading.
marunet
2012-03-03, 11:48 AM
for the beginner's less invest is more useful to start the forex trading business and you can get the more experience as you stay long term in forex trading, but better to use the demo account to better trading and best profit.
I agree with your opinion, traders have started to invest in the accounts cent after they learn and practice in demo account, and they already have an accurate analysis, so traderpemula just need to train their psychology. on cent account.
examin
2012-03-03, 07:03 PM
i think that the investment for newbie need to be at big capital and need the right prediction of the price because the investment in forex can be loss or profit any way if trader have big capital the income from the investment will be enough but small capital just make you waiste your time.
bambang
2012-03-04, 03:44 AM
as a beginner i want to go with $10 and i wanna trade eurusd and gold.
I think with $ 10 we will find it hard to trade in gold, because as we know gold has a very large range, which also has the greatest spread. with a large range, we can get a margin call in first order.
my advice with a capital $ 10, it is better to trade in currencies.
bekantan
2012-03-04, 08:43 AM
For gold trading capital should at least use the $ 100 on account cents, so that we avoid the Margin Call. But if we want to use $ 10 of capital we can trade on several currency pairs other than gold and silver.
newentry
2012-03-04, 09:13 AM
for the first time, you just continue your learning from demo account to real account then you have to make less investment in there and this is very necessary to avoid from some losing, and because the beginner just need to learn the market with real and trading psychologies in there and also they learn how to keep survive with the small capital
clickme
2012-03-04, 10:32 AM
Starting investment for beginners will be not high, because they are newbie and they have big chance to loss so it is wise to invest few amount for first trading, it may $10-$100 , not more than that. after a long time successful trading you can increase your investment understanding your position.
raka999
2012-03-04, 04:33 PM
Starting investment for beginners will be not high, because they are newbie and they have big chance to loss so it is wise to invest few amount for first trading, it may $10-$100 , not more than that. after a long time successful trading you can increase your investment understanding your position.
exactly once. investment is not necessarily with a large amount. especially for beginners, very risky at all. possible for a beginner, you do not have to deposit first in the forex market. just use the free capital of the broker. like of this insta. we can learn a lot about the forex without having to lose money at all.
Beginners in forex should never invest huge capital first they are all advice to start with the amount they are willing to lose. Most first time traders in live market lose their capital on the first day or first week of their live trading. If you can deposit $5 or $10 for cent accounts then much better.
That's right. Beginner traders shouldn't invest too much in the first time because they still didn't trade in real account to prove the
performance in real trading. So it's better to use small amount of investment and also small lot size in each transaction. But I think
deposit $5-10 only is too small amount of funds. My suggestion is about 100$ as starting investment.
dmambi
2012-03-04, 10:05 PM
A beginner should invest more time to study and learn new things about Forex trading instead of investing large money in the account and loosing it to the Forex markets traps. The real investment in this field is the knowledge and skill , if these are with us we can make money.
bambang
2012-03-04, 10:19 PM
A beginner should invest more time to study and learn new things about Forex trading instead of investing large money in the account and loosing it to the Forex markets traps. The real investment in this field is the knowledge and skill , if these are with us we can make money.
yes, for a beginner we should learn a lot in advance. because if we do not have adequate capabilities and directly invest in real account is likely we will lose money.
Therefore with the forum newbies can get a lot of experience and knowledge. we can also learn with a demo account first, to try the strategies we have learned.once we understand the strategy well, we can step into the real account.
mohamedsaleh
2012-03-05, 12:11 AM
In the beginning of my Forex trades i use to trade on EUR/USD but then i realized it was a wrong move because this pairs are very moody and changes many time throw the trade . i used 0.01 volume the basic thing you know .all this will help you to develop your investing in Forex
raka999
2012-03-05, 10:40 AM
In the beginning of my Forex trades i use to trade on EUR/USD but then i realized it was a wrong move because this pairs are very moody and changes many time throw the trade . i used 0.01 volume the basic thing you know .all this will help you to develop your investing in Forex
euro / usd is too volatile for beginners. maybe you can choose the usd / chf. This pair is the opposite of the euro / usd. nearly 80% of its movement against the euro / usd. volatility is not too large. so, when the euro / usd strong, the usd / chf down ..
ken arok
2012-03-05, 02:11 PM
I focus on the pair trading gbp / usd, I want to memorize mkarakter this pair, so I can have a profitable analysis, I believe, as a growing experience, I will be able to have a profitable analysis. I rely on technical analysis. and using intraday style, I think the way I am safe and profitable trading, provided that the rule of discipline in the system
hardworks
2012-03-05, 04:13 PM
Here a big question for beginner that what is starting investment
in which field they invest means ero usd etc
and which currency they trade and minimum lot volume etc .its very useful
After doing practice in demo account, you may invest 10-20$ in cent account to continue learning with real trading. After start to making consistent profits in cent account, then you may start trading in standard account. You may invest that you can afford to lose. But, i recommend you to not invest more than $100 while beginning. Always stick with eurusd to survive in trading.
chetan
2012-03-10, 01:57 PM
Currency to ziada ter USD hi chalti hay, keuun kay jitnay bhi Asia kay countries hain wo sab to US dollar may hi trade kertay hain. Deposit app ki knowledge per depend kerta hay, agar to aap ki performance demo may achi hay to phir ziada deposit ker lain nae to kam. or lot size hamesha lowest use karain.
sunil
2012-03-10, 03:26 PM
Newbie should spend some time watching the market and trying to understand it, may be they may trade with little amount with lower margin so they get opportuny to exit on profitable level after some time in case trade goes wrong.
chetan
2012-03-11, 04:04 PM
At the start of the tradings, begginers should not think about more and more and they should only try in demo and they should not think to open the standard account rather they should try to use the cent account.
chetan
2012-03-11, 04:24 PM
If any body really want to join the forex then he should not take the risks and he should try to survive in the forex for one year and after that he should try to get some money because in this business you may not be so attentive as the old traders who will try to get your money easily.
rajesh
2012-03-11, 04:33 PM
It is better that we should take less risks in forex but i think small investment in forex is also very dangerous to get some pretty money. because if have small money then we need great analysis to get some good money from forex.
chetan
2012-03-11, 04:51 PM
If there will be good money in your account then you can do good trade but remember that money is very precious so it is better that you should try to invest only that money which you can afford easily if you lose that money.
rajesh
2012-03-11, 04:56 PM
i think it is not good to have only 10 dollar to invest because this is very less amount and it is better that we should have more than 100 dollars at the start to trade. because less amount mean difficult tradings and less money to earn.
tajdarbet
2012-03-12, 07:15 PM
Here a big question for beginner that what is starting investment
in which field they invest means ero usd etc
and which currency they trade and minimum lot volume etc .its very useful
app ager newbie ho to app ko yahan par itni barri money bhi invest nahi karni chiye kioun k yahan app loss main bhi ja saktey ho es liye main app ko yahi kahoun ga k app yahan sirf or sirf 10 usd se start lo to ye kafi acha ha app k liye
ratnakr
2012-03-13, 12:05 AM
we could use only $ 10 for trading. but that needs to be emphasized is the goal. I think such a small capital, only to learn trading. Up to find a trading plan and the MM, which is ideal. then then we trade, greater use of money.
i think it is not good to have only 10 dollar to invest because this is very less amount and it is better that we should have more than 100 dollars at the start to trade. because less amount mean difficult tradings and less money to earn.
I agree with your opinion. even if a trader has the ability to analyze and a good strategy but if he does not have enough capital then it will continue to experience difficulties in trade.so in addition to knowledge and sikll, capital is also important...
Mybe for beginners 500$ is a good amount of investment that will give them a chance for trading freely and also it will alow them to earn some profit by investment in forex business...
It's too much amount of capitals to spend $500 for initial investment. I think $100 is enough as starting point to know
your performance during trading. You can use smaller than $100, if you use $500 then it is safe enough if your money
management is good but I don't think that is good idea to spend that much in first investment.
herono1
2012-03-13, 10:52 AM
Forex beginner's must invest less capital at initial stage of the forex starting because its more better to get the trading experience and trading knowledge for the improvement of the forex trading in future.
i use $10 when starting learn trading in live account,, because i know, forex is not easy and i have a high risk to lose as a newbie. when i have learn much how to get profit i will increase my capital to get more profit.
when i lose my first $10, it will never make me sad. if i use $50 or $500, its too high for lose our first deposite
forexpips
2012-03-13, 12:34 PM
100$ best invest for a beginner please open a reffed account if you do this then if you loss your all money then some money left in you reffed account after loss all money some left in your another account so do always , and trade with small lot use 1:100.
bambang
2012-03-13, 01:28 PM
100$ best invest for a beginner please open a reffed account if you do this then if you loss your all money then some money left in you reffed account after loss all money some left in your another account so do always , and trade with small lot use 1:100.
I think investing $ 100 for a beginner is too much. because usually newbies will lose their the first investment. In my opinion $ 10 is enough capital for a beginner, but use the account cents. using capital $ 10, a beginner can learn a lot about money management and trading psychology.
ratnakr
2012-03-13, 01:40 PM
100$ best invest for a beginner please open a reffed account if you do this then if you loss your all money then some money left in you reffed account after loss all money some left in your another account so do always , and trade with small lot use 1:100.
I think $ 100 is too much for the beginner. simply by $ 30. and using a 2% risk of initial capital. I think enough to hold the fund long enough to avoid being hit MC. But it certainly should put TP and SL.
TrojanFX
2012-03-14, 10:01 AM
A suitable amount to start with in Forex will depend on how much risk we are able to accommodate. Always remember that forex trading is a risk and it is important we only risk the amount we can comfortably dispense with.
Techno
2012-03-14, 12:18 PM
i use $10 when starting learn trading in live account,, because i know, forex is not easy and i have a high risk to lose as a newbie. when i have learn much how to get profit i will increase my capital to get more profit.
when i lose my first $10, it will never make me sad. if i use $50 or $500, its too high for lose our first deposite
for starters you should invest your time in advance of the invested money.
because at the time of undergoing the process of learning, the beginner would have had many failures. so they need more time to get used to learn the trading strategy, to finally be able to get consistent profit.
bambang
2012-03-14, 03:43 PM
for the beginner i think that its better to start trade in the demo account and when you think that you are ready you can invest some funds like 10$ in the real one to apply the experience that you make it in the demo account
yes, for beginners to invest $ 10 I think is enough. because with $ 10, we can learns about good emotional control. but we must also use good money management, so $ 10 it does not run out quickly. the longer life of our account, the more learning that we will get.
patil
2012-03-14, 04:58 PM
Starting investment for a beginner trader varies from trader to trader. However, if I have to recommend, I would say that a beginner should invest $20 in a cents account and begin from there.
TrojanFX
2012-03-18, 01:00 AM
as much as anything it is surely not to make you a bad because after all, what did you use to generate profit is based on the analysis, and analysis will also make something that is subjective and bad
s.akhtar
2012-03-18, 02:10 AM
Starting investment for a beginner trader varies from trader to trader. However, if I have to recommend, I would say that a beginner should invest $20 in a cents account and begin from there. yes you are right, but starting invest for beginner to depend on how he/she learn about forex and his/her demo profits percentage i think. if any beginner have 60% percentage about his profits i suggest him/her start your trade depositing 100-200 $ dollar and open your every trade about 1% loss.
ezincenter
2012-03-18, 01:28 PM
For a beginner to start trading I suggest to invest 500$ and trade only micro lots in order for him to be safe and protected from the margin call but all that after a six month of trading in a demo account .
ermaniso2011
2012-03-18, 03:54 PM
the best for the newbie is to trade with cent account.since they may loose it then at least it must be small amount so that they can still have reserved money to trade next time.l did the big mistake from starting and l have lost very huge amounts.it is really gambling to invest big amount if you are still not professional.
raka999
2012-03-18, 09:29 PM
I think the move away from gold in the beginning because he is the best highly volatile
you are right, gold trading has a higher level of risk compared with the currency. is really the price of gold tends to rise, but one day there will be a substantial correction. so, if your capital is not big, very easy to have a margin call.
aryan
2012-03-20, 01:24 PM
my advice never start your trade if you don't have $1000 for micro account, $10000 for mini account and $100000 for standard account. i know it seem too much but actually its the least amount that you must follow in order to get an ideal condition. many traders seem forget that adequacy in capital is an important matter in trading forex.
aryan
2012-03-20, 01:48 PM
as long as the investment is the amount you can afford to loose than it's okay to start it. beside, without ever start it how can we know that our skills is increasing, we need real field to test it and starting to put real investment is a real action.
as long as the investment is the amount you can afford to loose than it's okay to start it. beside, without ever start it how can we know that our skills is increasing, we need real field to test it and starting to put real investment is a real action.
I am agree with you. It's important to use amount which we can afford to lose in forex because if you're not ready
to face the amount of losses so it will impact to your psychology control in forex. So any amount could be used as capital
in forex but I think it will be better if the investment is not less than 50 dollars but not more than 200 dollars.
loveandy
2012-03-20, 03:12 PM
i think 100$ will be the best option to start trading if u know little about the trading also to start making low profits at the beginning since Forex market is very risky. don't put 10$ otherwise it will flash in couple of moments or in days . if u want to learn than open a demo account and start practicing there until u know how to trade
TrojanFX
2012-03-20, 11:09 PM
Deposit at the beginning of a small amount and this amount does not need him and I will be on the faith that this account is possible to lose a deposit of $ 100 just this reason can be collected a large amount so you can manage money does not lose much in the same time
Abdo22
2012-03-21, 01:24 AM
Beginners should not think more and more to win the first time and they should try demo account and they should not think to open the standard account, rather they should try to use the demo account after they harvest a large experiance and after he can profit.
I think beginner traders shouldn't invest too much in the first time of their trading because they still didn't know the performance
when use real account although they could make good profits consistently in demo account. Real account will be different with
demo account so it's better to use small amount of funds to know your performance and emotion control while you're trading
with real account. $100 is enough as starting investment.
lights
2012-03-21, 11:05 AM
I invest only $ 10 only at the beginning of my learning trading. since the beginning of trading we do not know much about forex trading strategies have not yet, not yet know the exact time of trading. invest first in the great possibility we will have a margin call
norix
2012-03-21, 11:56 AM
Beginners should not think more and more to win the first time and they should try demo account and they should not think to open the standard account, rather they should try to use the demo account after they harvest a large experiance and after he can profit.
a beginner really risky in this trade, opening it to read and learn from existing experience can make ignorance and other supporting aspects will evolve
the novice trader must see each other some of the systems and trading strategies can be good whether or not
ashwini
2012-03-21, 04:34 PM
after successful practice in forex demo account.
u can start with forum bonus.. with micro account.. min. order 50 cents or 0.05 lot ..with the balance 5$
and if ur account balance is 100$ than min. order taken 0.10lot thant is 1$ order.. dont panic..
dont try to make more or huge profit in a single day.. wait for the trend and try to income 50pips..
if u not get any trend .then dont trade that day.. just wait for next day..
sangam
2012-03-23, 01:47 PM
aapne sahi kaha bhai. newbie ko hamesha starting kam lot se aur kam investment se karna chahiye par main ye kahta hoon newbie forum join karke post karke bonus kamaye to ye option ek dum sahi rahega wo apne invest se bach jayega aur ek baat jab tak knowledge na ho apna invest kabhi bhi na kare forum hi best option hai. sikho aur kamao do kaam hote hai forum se i like indian-forex
For a newbie trader i can only say one thing and that is they must first look and learn the basics of the trades and the Fundamentals and do not think about making the profits from the start and the main focus will be on the learnings only.
narendra
2012-03-23, 02:38 PM
haan bhai aapne sahi kaha apna money tab tak invest mat karna jab tak aap forex mein achchi tarah guss na jaye jab aapko achchi knowledge ho jaye aur kabhi aap invest karna chahe ho kar sakte hai waise forum posting bhi kafi achcha option hai
vineet
2012-03-23, 03:10 PM
thanks brother aapne bahut hi achchi tarah se apna newbie ki detail share kari ye apne bahut hi achcha kiya bhai aur main ye kahunga sab newbie ko is post ko read karke kuch sabak lena chahiye aur kuch sikhna chahiye ek baat aur bhai hum jitne kam pips ka target lenge utna hi jayda hum profit le sakte hai loss ke chance kam ho jate hai kam target mein agar ek trade 10 pips bhi collect kare to din bhar mein 5 trade bahut hai achchi earning kar sakte hai
kuldip kale
2012-03-23, 03:17 PM
if you are new in forex market then it wikk good that you start your trade with low amount that is $50 because if you are going loss from youer trading then ratio of loss will less so that you aware from huge loss
TrojanFX
2012-03-23, 09:19 PM
if you are new in forex market then it wikk good that you start your trade with low amount that is $50 because if you are going loss from youer trading then ratio of loss will less so that you aware from huge loss
I think that you must have minimum 1000$ on your balance and try to make money. Every lower deposit will give you so much problem because greedy to make some money for living.
kalponick
2012-03-24, 03:00 AM
First demo account,,, Second Cent account and third standard account.. you must perform well from the first level and only increase your level when you have enough confident in your ability.. the amount needed is fully depends on you.. where you live.. how much money you need to live your livelihood.. and also how much money you can afford to lose.. there is no exact amount.. but the average for me is 1000$
ezincenter
2012-03-24, 04:49 AM
Here a big question for beginner that what is starting investment
in which field they invest means ero usd etc
and which currency they trade and minimum lot volume etc .its very useful
A large capital can make you more comfortable with your trading but if you can not afford a large capital so try to invest at least 500$ but don't borrow the money, you can trade with any pair you like but most traders use the Eur/Usd.
ezincenter
2012-03-24, 04:57 AM
About the minimum lots, try to trade only with 1000 units until you make confidence in your self then you can increase the lots bit by bit, I advice you when you make a profit try to withdraw it by the of the month and keep only the capital.
A large capital can make you more comfortable with your trading but if you can not afford a large capital so try to invest at least 500$ but don't borrow the money, you can trade with any pair you like but most traders use the Eur/Usd.
yes, substantial capital will make it easier to implement trading strategies, but we also have to make good risk management because otherwise the threat of loss that we will get will be even greater....
anchitkole
2012-03-26, 01:57 PM
for the first time, you just continue your learning from demo account to real account then you have to make less investment in there and this is very necessary to avoid from some losing, and because the beginner just need to learn the market with real and trading psychologies in there and also they learn how to keep survive with the small capital
anchitkole
2012-03-27, 01:25 PM
Exactly, there are no suitable money to start this business. Just invest a money that you can afford to loss. For very beginner, we still didn't have enough experience, that why we need to learn it and try to get more experience. If we use our big investment and we loss, what to do? Once again, invest money that you can afford to loss only to start this business.
anchitkole
2012-03-27, 01:26 PM
any number of important you should be able to bear the risk even though it's useless if you only make a deposit of $ 10 but when the weight loss you're experiencing stress, because it all has to do with the mind that are realistic and not so impossible
anitagala124
2012-03-27, 02:08 PM
No amount is ever big enough to achieve the profits that we would like to have from forex trading, but nevertheless, we always should keep in mind not to invest more than we can afford to lose in Forex trading.
anchitkole
2012-03-27, 02:19 PM
Indeed less investment will giving less result also , but if trader have profitable system ,with less investment it possible will growth being huge money , but i think trade with huge capital will more having passion to strive and make good profit daily or weekly, but for newbie , in my opinion only spent money from small fund , it necessary to built psyvhology
anchitkole
2012-03-27, 02:26 PM
I think 100$ is enough for trading with eurusd currency pairs.i think we can use 0.01 volume and we can safe at last 10K pips.so no need to worrie to trade eurusd currency.
kazol76
2012-03-27, 02:51 PM
My advice to beginners in forex is to always start with the amount you are willing to lose. If you only have a capital of $100 then don't deposit it all right away in one account. Deposit $10 first because you might lose it easily then next time you can examine your next plan so that your next deposit wont be put in risk again.
Or he can check his consistency by depositing same amount of money in demo account after test his trading style and achieving knowledge about Forex market he can easily understand that how much money he can able to hand in this business, cause Forex is not very easy it is too hard to be a experienced trader. Thanks
maryosa
2012-03-27, 05:35 PM
I think 100$ is enough for trading with eurusd currency pairs.i think we can use 0.01 volume and we can safe at last 10K pips.so no need to worrie to trade eurusd currency.
I think that keyword in this question is "beginner". If beginner start with $100 and lost all, then will lose confidence to trade again. I think beginner start with $10 or $20 and as he make more progress then should increase capital.
anubhavsingh
2012-03-27, 05:42 PM
Or he can check his consistency by depositing same amount of money in demo account after test his trading style and achieving knowledge about Forex market he can easily understand that how much money he can able to hand in this business, cause Forex is not very easy it is too hard to be a experienced trader. Thanks
har trader ko demo account me trade zarur karna chahaiye aur demo account me bhi utna hi paisa rakhna chahaiye jitna real account me rakhne ki sochte hai..aisa karne se trader ko real account me money management karna bahut hi easy ho jata hai aur wo bahut aceh se real account ho handle kar leta hai
As a newbie ,you better go for demo account practice and then start with $50 at least with mainly GBP/USD and the EUR/USD pairs trading .Don't go more then 0.05 Lot trading in single trade and always evaluate the trading market well before entering .Just be patience and don't try to over trade.
rakesh
2012-03-28, 12:37 PM
I think with $ 10 we will find it hard to trade in gold, because as we know gold has a very large range, which also has the greatest spread. with a large range, we can get a margin call in first order.
my advice with a capital $ 10, it is better to trade in currencies.
rakesh
2012-03-28, 12:39 PM
yes, for a beginner we should learn a lot in advance. because if we do not have adequate capabilities and directly invest in real account is likely we will lose money.
Therefore with the forum newbies can get a lot of experience and knowledge. we can also learn with a demo account first, to try the strategies we have learned.once we understand the strategy well, we can step into the real account.
before the start of the investment it would be nice for beginners to start the first step to assess the risk to be faced when going into business ..
one of the most are essential not to use the capital in the business of debt, because very dangerous ..
waqtitrader
2012-03-29, 12:03 PM
Here a big question for beginner that what is starting investment
in which field they invest means ero usd etc
and which currency they trade and minimum lot volume etc .its very useful
mere khiyal main to yahan par beginer ko jo ha to 10 usd se he start karna chiye kioun k main ne akser dekha ha k beginer yahan par aatey he loss main chaley jatey hane es liye main to samghta houn k un ko yahan par big amount invest nahi karni chiye bhelkey mere khiyal main to un ko yahan par kam investment kar k or low lot par trade kar k seekhna chiye forex trading ko
I think every newbie trader should learn first then they need to practice. When they fill confident then they should start with cent account and use very small lot size for trade. They must know about risk and money management system.
Of course. No matter how many dollars which they will invest in forex, they should prepare all things which is necessary for trading.
Demo account is good account to prepare them all, especially good money management and good strategy. And about investment,
I think $100 is enough as initial investment.
kameeelforex
2012-03-29, 03:01 PM
Here a big question for beginner that what is starting investment
in which field they invest means ero usd etc
and which currency they trade and minimum lot volume etc .its very useful
han forex trading main jo newbie hane un ko main ye mashwera doun ga k woh es main kaam se kaam investment karen kioun k ye kafi risky ha ro es main kisi bhi wqt un ko hig loss ho sakta haes liye main to khud bhi jab newbie tha na to main ne 10 usd se start kiya tha ye sab se achi ammount ha invest karen k lye kisi bhi newbie k lie
I do not understand the intent of your thread, but I try to add. forex trading can be started with capital as small as possible, even just a few dollars. and in this business we must have extensive knowledge, ranging from economic conditions and their effects on the strength of currencies, up to security issues. because it can also affect the price fluctuations that are happening.
mahmodeid
2012-03-29, 09:25 PM
beginners firstly should understand the forex well with studying hard
if you already understand the basis of trading you can start with asmall real money
so you should have good strategy and learn it in demo account
thank you
In my opinion beginner should not give much importance to how much profit they earn, but if they manage to earn small amount regularly they should be satisfied that they are good trader and then it will need just to add capital to increase profits.
rakesh
2012-03-30, 12:25 PM
I started with a $100 capital in my micro cents accounts. I got it from posting in a forex forum site. It's a risk free capital and it last for more than a month. If a newbie has no available funds like that he can start with $10. A much better option...less risk and less pain when you lose this amount.
sagar
2012-03-30, 01:13 PM
Beginners in forex should never invest huge capital first they are all advice to start with the amount they are willing to lose. Most first time traders in live market lose their capital on the first day or first week of their live trading. If you can deposit $5 or $10 for cent accounts then much better.
anitagala124
2012-03-30, 06:16 PM
euro / usd is too volatile for beginners. maybe you can choose the usd / chf. This pair is the opposite of the euro / usd. nearly 80% of its movement against the euro / usd. volatility is not too large. so, when the euro / usd strong, the usd / chf down ..
Techno
2012-03-30, 06:39 PM
I do not understand the intent of your thread, but I try to add. forex trading can be started with capital as small as possible, even just a few dollars. and in this business we must have extensive knowledge, ranging from economic conditions and their effects on the strength of currencies, up to security issues. because it can also affect the price fluctuations that are happening.
most beginners often get stuck into the wrong investments.
they make an investment in hopes of getting a big profit.
when they themselves do not really understand the field they will use to invest. thus causing them to fail in doing so.
anchitkole
2012-03-30, 07:07 PM
exactly once. investment is not necessarily with a large amount. especially for beginners, very risky at all. possible for a beginner, you do not have to deposit first in the forex market. just use the free capital of the broker. like of this insta. we can learn a lot about the forex without having to lose money at all.
zoomfire
2012-03-30, 07:19 PM
well it depends on the trader.if one is ready to lose $1000 then he can invest and trade.
or a considerable amount of $100 would be good to trade.
you are right, gold trading has a higher level of risk compared with the currency. is really the price of gold tends to rise, but one day there will be a substantial correction. so, if your capital is not big, very easy to have a margin call.
Laknath
2012-03-31, 01:38 PM
It is recommended to start with a small capital first like 20USD in cent account.When the time passes and gained experience then you can invest big capital.Most important thing is learn the art of the trading.
irfan
2012-03-31, 01:41 PM
I think beginners should not invest in forex until they start getting a consistent profit in forex demo account. Beginners are subject to haevy losses in the initial stages of their real trading so they must be so careful and they should open a cent account as their first real account.
manibhai2012
2012-03-31, 02:21 PM
Starting Investment For beginner ?
According to my point of view I think that newbie should start from only two pairs 1. euro/usd and number 2. euro/jpy i think these two pair moves very strongly in the market and move a lot more than the other currency pairs which is very good for the newbies.
barkiman
2012-04-02, 08:34 AM
I recommend to deposit $ 10 in your account cents. so, the account will be seen 1000. so, you as if trading with $ 1000. this can help your psychology to remain cautious in the transaction. so that, later on when you are really expert and trading with $ 1000, will not feel awkward.
rahul
2012-04-04, 10:52 PM
i think for beginners 100$ is a good amount of investment that will give them a chance for trading freely and also it will alow them to earn some profit by investment of such amount, but initially they should learn some startegies about tarding the forex
newentry
2012-04-04, 11:09 PM
for beginner, they just need make invest with less money, do not put the big one in the balance before they can get the understanding about this business and master some strategies for their trading,and for the first time they just continue their learning and practicing from demo account, it is good to avoid from big losing
mandeeprana
2012-04-04, 11:24 PM
i think for a beginner you can trade with pairs which you feel comfortable as no currency pairs are volatile all the time but trading lotsize of 0.01 will be very low risk of trading and i feel that would be safe as a beginner
forex trading me har trader apna investment soch smajh ke karta hai
aur mujhe lagta hai ki investmet ke hisab se hi lot size dekhan chahaiye aur ussi ke hisab se trading bhi karni chahaiye..
Aik newbie ko start may cent account open ker kay cent trade kerni cheay. iss tarah chahay profit bhi bhohot kam hoga laykin practice period may ye theek rehta hay. iss tarah loss honay ki surat may bhi ziada loss nae hoga or preshaani bhi nae hogi.
LeeMinHo
2012-04-08, 05:48 PM
As a beginners , if you want to trade on real account , i recommend you should not open standard account . You just need to use cent account because it is safe for you and help you reduce the risk better .
To Invest In Forex market, you need a lot of analysis, for what it is not enjoying every day, I advise you before investing in an account Pamm to see recent transactions to ensure your investment.
Beginners should not think more and more to win the first time and they should try demo account and they should not think to open the standard account, rather they should try to use the demo account after they harvest a large experiance and after he can profit.
Well said, 100$ is the best lowest amount of money to start trading and a beginner should not invest more than 100$ account, you can do very good trading with a lot size of .01 lot and 0.1 insta lots with 100$ but you should increase the lot size unless your account capital increases.
dadaa
2012-04-14, 03:54 PM
Currency to ziada ter USD hi chalti hay, keuun kay jitnay bhi Asia kay countries hain wo sab to US dollar may hi trade kertay hain. Deposit app ki knowledge per depend kerta hay, agar to aap ki performance demo may achi hay to phir ziada deposit ker lain nae to kam. or lot size hamesha lowest use karain.
To Invest In Forex market, you need a lot of analysis, for what it is not enjoying every day, I advise you before investing in an account Pamm to see recent transactions to ensure your investment.
i think that the investment for newbie need to be at big capital and need the right prediction of the price because the investment in forex can be loss or profit any way if trader have big capital the income from the investment will be enough but small capital just make you waiste your time.
yeah it was really significant stuff enough to make us especially the crew of commerce using the lot size 0:01 Hanaya this will really make us have a good trading experience and it will last longer if we could use the discipline to keep the lot size 001
I agree with your opinion that a beginner should use a low capital and $ 20 in trading capital I think it is good and will bring you to exercise without too much fear of capital loss that you received in the trade
kutuk
2012-04-16, 09:39 PM
whether it's actually a beginner or a professional already, in starting a business must be meahami about the business, so if you still have a lot of new practice and learn to let mengetahuai various strategi.Jika still new in forex and our funds are not much better cent using the account, this experience.......
yanni
2012-04-18, 04:31 AM
Here a big question for beginner that what is starting investment
in which field they invest means ero usd etc
and which currency they trade and minimum lot volume etc .its very useful
yes my brother is a good decision to invest early, for what it is bad business to the trading market without knowledge and without experience, then it is better to invest a total of 50 Dollars for start and after 2 or 3 months, you earn a good experience in the forex market, and you can start your orders yourself, I wish you good luck my brother.
ken arok
2012-04-18, 10:28 AM
I need to save 50 dollars for my new life in forex and change my style again. I am having a lot of fun when i am trading in live account. Now that im trying demo again i am feeling bored with this play money. With no money to play forex i do not think i can recover back my excitement like before.
the best for the newbie is to trade with cent account.since they may loose it then at least it must be small amount so that they can still have reserved money to trade next time.l did the big mistake from starting and l have lost very huge amounts.it is really gambling to invest big amount if you are still not professional.
ishvara
2012-04-18, 01:29 PM
Many brokers now give many bonuses for their new members, so newbies should take advantage of this and then start trading/learning with such bonuses that brokers give them. It would help strengthen their knowledge.
app ager newbie ho to app ko yahan par itni barri money bhi invest nahi karni chiye kioun k yahan app loss main bhi ja saktey ho es liye main app ko yahi kahoun ga k app yahan sirf or sirf 10 usd se start lo to ye kafi acha ha app k liye
dineshji
2012-04-19, 03:49 PM
you need to invest 50$ minimum. and go for the trade of eur/ usd in demo account and try to understand this graph, and think about how chart changes its positions also learn the basic indicators and also use the minimum lot size in every trade.
Nabi Ahmed Gill
2012-04-22, 03:42 PM
Here a big question for beginner that what is starting investment
in which field they invest means ero usd etc
and which currency they trade and minimum lot volume etc .its very useful
Forex trading boht acha or best business ha es main hum jatini chayia money earned kar satka han or raha sawal investment ka to ya be es forum na boht achi facility de hoe ha or agr koi newbie es kam ko start karna chata ha to us k laya one hundred dollar boht han en sa ap achi trading kar sakta ho...
foxboy
2012-04-22, 03:57 PM
You can start with $ 10 only. and use the account cents. you are a new player must master the market and therefore use the account cents. Transactions with a small margin, will make you trading with a very safe and you can practice before you use the larger capital. with $ 10 you can train your trading psychology instead of just using the tone of the demo account to practice
darksaimon
2012-04-22, 04:30 PM
i conceive for a tiro you can change with pairs which you conclude cost as no acceptance pairs are unstable all the reading but trading lot size of 0.01 leave be really low attempt of trading and i seek that would be innocuous as a tyro
fxlover
2012-04-22, 07:22 PM
before investment newbie must be testify his ability in demo trade. if he will success then he start his forex trading. the investment depend on the trader ability. if he invest less amount he need to trade with small lot size and taking small leverage. the best pairs for newcomer is eurusd and gbpusd.
trader_jambi
2012-04-22, 07:29 PM
all right bro, before we really dive into the real we have to practice on a demo first. Let us not jump into the Real side. because we do not know what it will be our field. the reason why we need to know what forex is. by learning every time there over time will surely get it.
barkiman
2012-04-22, 08:26 PM
before investment newbie must be testify his ability in demo trade. if he will success then he start his forex trading. the investment depend on the trader ability. if he invest less amount he need to trade with small lot size and taking small leverage. the best pairs for newcomer is eurusd and gbpusd.
I think, as a beginner you do not need to make a deposit in advance. you can get the capital from this forum. I think as a beginner, you do not need a large capital, the most important thing you can to practice psychology.
clickme
2012-04-22, 08:30 PM
I think as you are begginer you do not need to invest big money as big risk for it, try to invest small amount as may be $100 and play it very small leverage with small volume, you may be good enough for the trade and gather much knowledge for future big trading.
sinaga
2012-04-22, 08:31 PM
absolutely right. for the newcomers, could use the capital post bonus credit of this forum. This can also be a learning for new arrivals. if he already has good skills in trading, he could start the infestation using its own capital trading
fanesa G
2012-04-22, 08:48 PM
absolutely right. for the newcomers, could use the capital post bonus credit of this forum. This can also be a learning for new arrivals. if he already has good skills in trading, he could start the infestation using its own capital trading
YEs therea are a lot of advantages when we invest using bonus forum because we have learn about forex first and beside thats we also have an adequate capital to start our trading bussiness without afraid thats we will loss this money in our trading.
evostaff
2012-04-22, 09:52 PM
I think as you are begginer you do not need to invest big money as big risk for it, try to invest small amount as may be $100 and play it very small leverage with small volume, you may be good enough for the trade and gather much knowledge for future big trading.
yes, you are right and i agree with you. and start to learn forex from the general currency, like eur/usd or gbp/usd and invest our little money, because as a beginner we are opten loss....
kuttus
2012-04-22, 09:57 PM
YEs therea are a lot of advantages when we invest using bonus forum because we have learn about forex first and beside thats we also have an adequate capital to start our trading bussiness without afraid thats we will loss this money in our trading.
As you said Indian forex give us this huge opportunity that we can start our own forex business by doing some work like we are shearing outing Knowledge and getting a benefit to start treading I will say Indian forex Thanks a lots. for this type of opportunity
jmsblack18
2012-04-22, 10:49 PM
I think for newbie it's no need to trading with big money since that will kill you for sure. As a newbie the starting investment needed to begin trade is around 150 dollar. That is enough to make your psychology stable and no need panic when loss. Or other way to using bonus is seem good way to begin as investor.
Ramnit
2012-04-23, 12:06 AM
I think as you are begginer you do not need to invest big money as big risk for it, try to invest small amount as may be $100 and play it very small leverage with small volume, you may be good enough for the trade and gather much knowledge for future big trading.
f you want to earn much money then you have to invest much too,so you can trade with big lots, but you should know this market is dangerous so keep learning and practice before invest your money
wendhrie
2012-04-23, 12:27 AM
The investment for newbie need to be at big capital and need the right prediction of the price because the investment in forex can be loss or profit any way if trader have big capital the income from the investment will be enough. But small capital just make you waiste your time.
birbolnath
2012-04-23, 07:54 AM
After taking proper knowledge and gain huge experience then you can be start invest in forex market. Large amount no need in first time. Because with profit, loss can be happened at first. Nobody wants loss at first time. So after knowledge basic knowledge little amount is best for beginner investment.
maurya
2012-04-24, 01:03 PM
Newbie's starting investment should be 100$. And trade with 0.01 lot size. As losses are very probable in start so this money management will be safe for a newbie. Also you can start with 50$ but the lot size should not increase.
a beginner really risky in this trade, opening it to read and learn from existing experience can make ignorance and other supporting aspects will evolve
the novice trader must see each other some of the systems and trading strategies can be good whether or not
sachin
2012-04-25, 11:31 PM
Although every newbie has different goals and targets and they make their investments accordingly so a trader chooses their amount based on the same , but I think any initial investment of 100 $ is a good amount to start with and a trader can make consistent profits by trading with this amount .
sachin
2012-04-26, 01:34 PM
Well after a trader is over with demo account they need to trade in real account and for that they need to make some investments and that should not be a huge account and as you mentioned cent account can be opened and one can start with 20 $ or 50 $ and start trading .
netra
2012-04-26, 01:52 PM
I think that keyword in this question is "beginner". If beginner start with $100 and lost all, then will lose confidence to trade again. I think beginner start with $10 or $20 and as he make more progress then should increase capital.
Forexboy
2012-04-27, 01:13 PM
It is better to go for practice in a demo account for a beginner, and then begin to at least 100 dollars with pairs like GBP / USD and EUR / USD primarily commercial. Do not go and then by 0.5 Lot commercially unique and always assess the commercial market and before entering. Just be patience and do not try to trade during bad market trends.
kalponick
2012-04-27, 10:28 PM
You only need to start in real account when you mastered forex a little bit in demo accounts.. then you need to only open a real account with as much as money you can afford to lose easily.. then you must trade with proper money management.. So that you can ensure your surviving long enough on this market.. Because if you survived then you will have enough opportunity to come back to the market even with some periodic losses..
zahidrock
2012-04-27, 10:48 PM
If you want to start forex then you can start with little capital on cent account. Because if you start on cent account then you can easily practice with little capital and on first time you can use low violated pair because with low violated pair you can stay long time and can get lot of information.
Maham Gill
2012-05-02, 05:27 PM
Here a big question for beginner that what is starting investment
in which field they invest means ero usd etc
and which currency they trade and minimum lot volume etc .its very useful
agr ap na trading ko start karna ha to sub sa pala ap ka account main balance hona chaya thora ho ya zada balnce ho es sa kuch nahi hota blance hona chaya kuch be ho ja agr ap ka account main kam balance ha to ap to ap apna volume ko bht kam raka or agr ap ka account main zadia balance ho to par ap ko koi prwa nahi hone chayia.
andhwrey
2012-05-02, 10:09 PM
In order to start in forex they need first to have the demo accounts. And then later on will try to find out where he can have trading capital to be used for trading in real account. There's no starting investment or initial trading capital to start for the newbies as they can start with even smaller but then may not have good profit but then they can start having big capital with bigger risks.
i think bigger capital not lead to big risk at all,we are decide to choose risk or not,thats a fact,we are controling our risk,by appllying good MM
and risk each trades,so i will tell that profit value will answer in our money to trades
kamrul10
2012-05-02, 11:30 PM
better to focus our money risk capital.that does not matter about how much you lost or earn or does not matter about how much you invested or want to invest money for trading.but important is knowledge and study about forex.
silverfx
2012-05-03, 01:07 AM
i started with 7, 15 then 1000$.may be that was my mistakes and lost.better to follow this step: 10, 100 , 500/1000$.more invest means more profits and more lots can be taken in forex.but use proper strategy.
playfx
2012-05-03, 05:22 AM
Once the new trader has practiced well in demo accounts and has reached the state where he can handle the real money, then we can always start trying with $100. We can assess our emotions involved with the real money and correct any mistakes.
i think the appropriate amount of capital also take the important role in our success. i suggest not to take any real account unless you have collect $1.000 for micro account, $10.000 for mini account and $100.000 for standard account. untill you've rereached it then its better you stay at the demo account.
Don't invest more than you can't afford to take, that's the main rule for making investment in forex. But it's possible to trade
without any investment at all if you want. I think it's possible to trade with welcome bonus or bonus posting. If you can trade well
so you could try to win in contest to gain capitals for trading.
khaled6969
2012-05-03, 04:41 PM
Investing for Beginners minimum deposit of $ 100 and that the amount of capital surplus or redundant, because the risk of trading and choosing a broker and has a known reputation and proven
According to my view a newbie trader should trade in eur/usd currency pair as this pair has very low pip difference in almost every brokers. Trader have chance to get profit in less time in this pair as compare to other pairs.Other reason is many traders are trading in this pair so that we can get help from senior and professional traders in analysing and chart interpreting.
naziafarhan
2012-05-03, 07:03 PM
I think for learning forex trading a new trader can invest as little as 100$ in forex then with the 100$ balance he can start trading right after the starting of live trading he will start to believe that forex is not a place of easy money.
raka999
2012-05-04, 07:33 PM
well, I think, as a beginner, you do not need to make a deposit too big. even you do not need to make a deposit. This forum has provided the capital that you can use for real trading. to join and be active in this forum, you will gain knowledge and unlimited capital.:good:
vanigota
2012-05-13, 02:45 PM
I think every newbie trader should learn first then they need to practice. When they fill confident then they should start with cent account and use very small lot size for trade. They must know about risk and money management system.
Nezamahmedchy
2012-05-13, 02:58 PM
I think iys depend on traders ability and a say it that for real practice 20$ is better then slowly increase your deposit by profit best of luck all who are want to deposit in forex.
Gecko
2012-05-15, 07:47 AM
as a beginner i started to trade by $10.. using leverage 1:200 or 1:400 but i cent.. so my balance in my trading platform showing 500.. with that i can trade 0.5lot, and it can hold about 1000 point of the price movement.. i trade EU, sometimes AU.. i only trade if my indicator said so.. and try to be discipline with my system,, not to greedy, the change can come every time, no need to worry to much if you lose one change on a volatile market..
raihan0301
2012-05-15, 08:05 AM
I You Are New Trader. You Need Practice In Demo.After Success In demo You Can Deposit Money Minimum 100$ .Than Your Lot Is 0.01 Than You Can Trade Particularly
julianambas
2012-05-15, 09:28 AM
I think if the demo account has been successful in the sense that the gains and losses are still a lot of advantages, they are ready for the real account.
and if it put the funds should take account cents first to know the actual market situation
digger_jim
2012-05-15, 12:41 PM
Beginners do not need any investment. They should work with demo account.after successfully perform demo period at least two month they can go to real account for live trading and they can choose a broker who provides small amount of investment also good strategy.then the beginners can continue trading.
That's right. Don't waste money on something when you are in the beginning stage. Forex trading is unlike school, where only the poor strive for scholarship. If you can get your hand into trading without any money, and today it is more than just possible, you should do that.
kamrul10
2012-05-15, 12:49 PM
mera kuch dost ha jo forex join kadna chahta ha.ledkin darpok bhi ha.wo log forex ko trust nehi kadte ha.isliye mane kaha ha,join kadne se pehle research karo, then invest karo.agar aap proper risk use karoge to you will never loss here.
Rizwan
2012-05-15, 12:53 PM
50 $ is huge amount for bigner....becuse first tim loss must he baad mein jitni marzi
invstment kry but first tim only 50
MarginCall
2012-05-16, 09:14 PM
Better we should take fewer risks in Forex, but I think the small investment in Forex is also very dangerous to get some money fairly. for if they have little money, we need a lot of analysis to get some good Forex money.
For me we need to start investing in forex with the minimum amount. This is because we still do not know that we will continue to be profitable only to the capital first.
jmsblack18
2012-05-16, 10:25 PM
The micro account to trade for newbie is best thing. In this account newbie not waste their money and got the feeling all trader get when trade with big money. I think with combination of new skill and little money like this all beginner can maintain their way to success very well.
nurhidayah
2012-05-16, 10:47 PM
The micro account to trade for newbie is best thing. In this account newbie not waste their money and got the feeling all trader get when trade with big money. I think with combination of new skill and little money like this all beginner can maintain their way to success very well.
start investing in forex, we must have a clear reason and purpose for our trading process does not become one-way and not so good for us to learn as well as possible, it's good as a trader we must understand each trading process that we run is to be equated with some trading rules that are interesting to be able to be run with the best possible
mmassi
2012-05-17, 03:08 PM
For a beginner I believe the lying almost 200 dollars to 300 dollars is useful and perfect but be only 0.2 volume of 0.3 for 200 dollars and 300 dollars for volume but it is never large enough to achieve the benefits we would like to trade on the forex market, but nevertheless, we should always keep in mind not to invest more for profit and not lose all.
bablu7832
2012-05-17, 04:42 PM
In my opinion the initial investment for forex beginners should not be less than 100.They should not risk more than 1-2 % of their total investment i.e., for an amount of 100 $ we should not risk 0.01 $.
dmambi
2012-05-17, 04:47 PM
A beginner should start with as much small amount as possible and trade with caution to avoid loss in the beginning.
And also should trade with low lot orders only to experience the market first around six months without expecting much profit from the trading.
ikram9876
2012-05-19, 02:06 PM
hahah you are right bro ...beginner 10$ se start karega tu kia fayda esy acha hain ke wo strat he na kare ..ap sahi keh rahey kam as kam 50 ya 60 $ sey start karna chaheye or wo be usd main ..
sabutkelaparasaduren
2012-05-19, 09:07 PM
Here a big question for beginner that what is starting investment
in which field they invest means ero usd etc
and which currency they trade and minimum lot volume etc .its very useful
I suggest to trade with the usd. however because the currency is still the standard in the currency market. we see the euro as an example. current euro was slumped against the dollar. not long ago when he was victorious.
sumonmia0526
2012-05-20, 01:20 AM
starting with 10$ is enough for test ..first time we must have to control our self for not to blown up the account quickly so we will think about pips gain with low volume like 0.01 or 0.03 size of lots
redstar
2012-05-20, 06:02 AM
as beginner, invest with amount that you will fell enjoy and ready to loss. using cent dollars and 1:1000, then trading with smallest lot with one strategy that you understood.
ayusri
2012-05-20, 06:25 AM
for the beginner should use curency USD to invest in forex, the amount not more than USD $ 100 lot maximum is 0.1 lot for all open positions do not get too many open positions and each position must be followed by the SL and TP properly, how to use SL can bear the loss, los maximum is 10% of the maximum capital, always use good money management do not open too many curency trading and always see the power of intention is trading just follow trends in trade do not open buy limit or limit cell but use the sell stop or buy stop order to secure our position.
anton
2012-05-20, 10:10 AM
for the beginner should use curency USD to invest in forex, the amount not more than USD $ 100 lot maximum is 0.1 lot for all open positions do not get too many open positions and each position must be followed by the SL and TP properly, how to use SL can bear the loss, los maximum is 10% of the maximum capital, always use good money management do not open too many curency trading and always see the power of intention is trading just follow trends in trade do not open buy limit or limit cell but use the sell stop or buy stop order to secure our position.
ok very useful for beginners like me, when I first forex trading do not know how the money is good Management, I do not know how to use a lota good and good placement of the SL, so that I get is destruction on my account, because the use of the lot very large
sobjanta
2012-05-20, 07:52 PM
I think at the start of the tradings, begginers should not guess roughly writer and solon and they should only try in demo and they should not guess to wide the definitive account kinda they should try to use the cent account.
malibo
2012-05-21, 03:26 AM
A tip for beginner you can start with 100 $ and then use real accounts with lot sizes such as 0.1 in your business. This method is safer and can give us help to maintain a stable forex trading results in reading. Now this is what he account the large one may have more profits.
naijafx
2012-05-21, 05:25 AM
Anyone starting i will advise to start with capital that they can afford to loss. Trading with $100 for a beginner is very much good too.
If you're not ready to invest any dollars in forex so you could use bonus posting forum or welcome bonus which is offered by brokers.
And the amount of capital for trading, I suggest to use about 50-100 dollars as initial investment. Don't invest more than 200 dollars and
don't invest lower than 50 dollars because if the investment is higher than 200 dollars so it will be high risk for beginners and if the investment is lower than 50 dollars so it's too few amount of dollars to gain so it could affect to psychology of trader.
clickme
2012-05-22, 03:27 PM
I can add with you something more, that as you are beginner son that for the first real live trading you do not invest a big or high amount, for you start trading with only $100, and trade with just a small point , understand the market provability its area and range . after that you will be able to increase your deposit for high trade and volume.
talebpost
2012-05-22, 03:40 PM
As beginner i would like to invest $10 initially while Forex business is very risky. I prefer to invest in EUR, JPY and CHF.
waleedkhan
2012-05-22, 03:52 PM
Here a big question for beginner that what is starting investment
in which field they invest means ero usd etc
and which currency they trade and minimum lot volume etc .its very useful
may samjhta hun kay begineers ko chiya kay woh jo hain aik acha capital invest karain starting may taka woh aik acha profit hasil karah sakain taka un ko aik acha profit mil sakaya...
sasa0220
2012-05-22, 06:38 PM
As for a beginner i would recommend to start with S10 -$20 in a cent account. But if you have money you can start with $100 in a standard account and trade with 0.01/0.02 standard lots. it is safe to use that volume
clickme
2012-05-22, 08:36 PM
as you said in sense of you I can say that there is no specific amount forex investing for beginners. but it is wise to start with a low deposit of amount , and trade with just a low volume and then measure the market of your own experience for the future trade. once you experience then you can increase your volume level.
Gurufx
2012-05-22, 09:37 PM
If you're not ready to invest any dollars in forex so you could use bonus posting forum or welcome bonus which is offered by brokers.
And the amount of capital for trading, I suggest to use about 50-100 dollars as initial investment. Don't invest more than 200 dollars and
don't invest lower than 50 dollars because if the investment is higher than 200 dollars so it will be high risk for beginners and if the investment is lower than 50 dollars so it's too few amount of dollars to gain so it could affect to psychology of trader.
One has to learn no matter what he plan to do in his life. Same is in forex trading but you need to do a bit extra for becoming a good trader. There are some traders that I had talked to and they told me that they had spent 17 hours in front of screen to master trading.
Anyone starting i will advise to start with capital that they can afford to loss. Trading with $100 for a beginner is very much good too.
I also agree, with a capital of the then jerak step for novice traders become easier, because the power of capital to start trading, and if I may suggest using a small lot just yet. If it had started trading with a true master it can only increase the number of lots.
Ramnit
2012-05-24, 03:16 PM
As for a beginner i would recommend to start with S10 -$20 in a cent account. But if you have money you can start with $100 in a standard account and trade with 0.01/0.02 standard lots. it is safe to use that volume
i think there is no limit of it, although some people invest so much money thinking that may be in this way they will get huge profits but later on they loose their huge money so always start trading with less amount and later on increase it with your profits.
boniez
2012-05-24, 03:53 PM
try to use only a capital of $ 10 and use the cents account, then later it will taste like $ 1000 which may give a different psychologically than if you were using a demo account.
hamadmuneer
2012-05-24, 03:56 PM
mere khial main app ko kam se kam 50 dollar to invest karny chahye waisy to ye be kam hoty hian us ke bad app eurusd main kam start karo starters ke liy ye best pair hai aor 50$ capital pe ap 0.03 se 0.05 tak trade lagao
tashnotashi
2012-05-25, 12:10 AM
Here a big question for beginner that what is starting investment
in which field they invest means ero usd etc
and which currency they trade and minimum lot volume etc .its very useful
ager app newbie ho or app ko yahan par invest akreny main koi bhi takleef ho rahi ha ya app ko samgh nahi aa rahi k kitna invest karna ha to main app ko yahi kahoun ga k app ko es main 1st time na 100 usd invest karney chiyen
hitesh
2012-05-25, 12:28 AM
a beginner really risky in this trade, opening it to read and learn from existing experience can make ignorance and other supporting aspects will evolve
the novice trader must see each other some of the systems and trading strategies can be good whether or not
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