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WORLDEMO1
2011-09-29, 02:25 AM
Hi, One of the most critical issues in technical analysis is true and false break out-at least for me. I searched alot about this issue then I thout of starting this new thread. So please share your ideas about true and false break out and how to detect them. Thanks!

yogesh
2011-12-01, 08:11 PM
I have noticed several times that market does not let traders easily earn profit, and so many times it gives a false break out which forces many traders to bring in trade or close their trades and ultimately resulting in losses. But as they are not often i still feel it quite safe to use stop loss.

ragib
2011-12-04, 08:40 AM
when ever a break out happen... either in breaking resistance or support , the price will always retest the zone.if a false break out happen then the market will come in ward the level. and a successful break out will first break , then test the breakout level .... then it will go for further movement.

yogesh
2011-12-06, 01:29 AM
In case of false break out it is for a while only and price jumps back above the break out level after triggering so many stop losses - so it is not worth to set your sl just at the ressitance or support rather have adequate gap so that a false break out dont trigger it and before planning your strategy on a break out assure that this is decisive break.

realfun07
2011-12-06, 04:55 PM
Traders consider technical indicators to trade and to figure out the market trend but at times these indicators do give false signals and lay a trap for the traders.So traders must trade cautiously based on both technical and fundamental analysis.

mayengbam
2011-12-10, 09:12 AM
whether a breakout is true or false, no one knows it with 100% accuracy. the market is dynamic we all knows it, it can even go against a news due to the sentiments of the trader sometimes. In such circumstances its really a tough call to identify whether the breakout is genuine or not, so the best option will be to wait for a few moment instead of rushing in to trade

nirale
2011-12-28, 12:05 PM
Traders consider technical indicators to trade and to figure out the market trend but at times these indicators do give false signals and lay a trap for the traders.So traders must trade cautiously based on both technical and fundamental analysis.

hima
2011-12-30, 10:10 PM
I tried much times to adopt the others stratifies and analysis for my trades some it could be batter and some time its in lose position,
there for my opinion is to make analysis and that should be true in case that you analyze the Countries situations regarding the pairs then you are in Profit

niks
2011-12-31, 02:41 PM
I observed one common thing in most of the breakout .
The initial candlestick have very small tail .So you can earn nice profit for next candlestick, at-least 30+ pips instantly.

aadrika
2011-12-31, 09:21 PM
Hi, One of the most critical issues in technical analysis is true and false break out-at least for me. I searched alot about this issue then I thout of starting this new thread. So please share your ideas about true and false break out and how to detect them. Thanks!

You should only worry about true or false breakout if you trade the trend breakout strategy. Also it depends on how you look at a breakout from support and resistance. Do you see support and resistance as fixed price points or do you see them as zones. If you see them as zones then interpreting a break will be much easier for you.

lax
2012-01-15, 07:07 PM
Traders consider technical indicators to trade and to figure out the market trend but at times these indicators do give false signals and lay a trap for the traders.So traders must trade cautiously based on both technical and fundamental analysis.

muhammadatif
2012-01-15, 11:09 PM
I cannot any suggestion about true of false brake in technical analysis because we dont have any hard and fast rule or pre defined 100% accurate mathematical formula it is up to you according to your experience, trading and analysis skills.

fxquest
2012-01-17, 04:51 PM
False break out is something that breaks the range to either side but for little time and then returns back into the range this results into losses for many trades as their stop loss triggered and some other enter into fresh trade considering it break out and so deceived.

sohelforex
2012-02-06, 11:26 PM
A trader always should give importance to fundamental analysis then technical because we don't know whether a breakout is true or false. Beginners should learn about the indicators well to be depended into it.
THanks.

dada
2012-02-07, 12:29 AM
breakout system is not so easy. sirf iske upor biswas karke agar hum order denge to baria loss ka samna bhi karna par sakte he. isliye kuch indicator, news ye dekh ke breakout strategy ki use karna chahiye,

m3x_19
2012-02-17, 02:24 PM
True or false break out?

Hi, One of the most critical issues in technical analysis is true and false break out-at least for me. I searched alot about this issue then I thout of starting this new thread. So please share your ideas about true and false break out and how to detect them. Thanks!
Breakout is one of the most prifitable side of the forex market, however, it is not easy to spot, even if we think we have spotted them, it can be just a fake breakout. In order to identify this is a true breakout i usually use an oscillator indicator, in this time the CCI, if the cci has make its pattern then i believe this is a true breakout, but if not, the breakout is a false one

jai
2012-02-28, 06:25 PM
Well aap esa kero k jo bhi aap ka setup hey, jitna bhi stop loss benta hey us sey kuch pips or uper rekh ley. ager aap ki strategy sehi hey to market false break ker k phir aap ki direction mein aa jaye gi

Abdomhadi
2012-02-28, 10:48 PM
I completely agree that it is beyond any price and does not jump back above the break at the stop losses after the outbreak as - it is not worth putting your sl just ressitance and voila support rather will be space for a false break do not have the trigger and before planning your strategy on a break to ensure that it is breaking dcisive.et not forget also that it is always much more that can be read and

sasmita11
2012-02-28, 11:13 PM
i am also searching about the false breakout.it is very difficult when any false breakout carried out because many big players of this for getting
the maximum profit from this business.

rajesh
2012-03-10, 05:55 PM
In case of false break out it is for a while only and price jumps back above the break out level after triggering so many stop losses - so it is not worth to set your sl just at the ressitance or support rather have adequate gap so that a false break out dont trigger it and before planning your strategy on a break out assure that this is decisive break.

chirayu
2012-03-14, 01:09 PM
In the detection of true breakouts, then we need to have seen a strong trend in the direction of the intended breakout. If for instance there is a key support in EUR/USD at 1.3025, and currency market price is at 1.3215, we will need to see a strong trend build up to 1.3025. When price gets here, there will not be an immediate breakout but a testing of the support level to see if it holds. We can expect up to two or three tests / false breaks before we see a real breakout. So do not just rush into a trade because you see what you think is a breakout.

bambang
2012-03-14, 03:29 PM
Hi, One of the most critical issues in technical analysis is true and false break out-at least for me. I searched alot about this issue then I thout of starting this new thread. So please share your ideas about true and false break out and how to detect them. Thanks!

quite difficult to find a valid or false breakout. because the market is always changing every day. but we could detect a breakout by using the help of indicators, I use the trendline and zigzag. if the zigzag lines are still in the trend line, meaning a false breakout, and vice versa. if the zigzag has penetrated the trendline, may have been the breakout.

gava
2012-04-10, 12:10 PM
am also searching about the false breakout.it is very difficult when any false breakout carried out because many big players of this for getting
the maximum profit from this business.

newentry
2012-04-10, 07:37 PM
i only used the higher time frame to see the breakout and you know that sometimes when we make analysis for it but the trend is still continue the breakout then we have to accep floating minus, just wait and see at the higher time frames until we see the true trend

zoomfire
2012-04-10, 08:59 PM
it is difficult to detect fake breakouts.or the break outs which occur might jump in opposite direction.
so we need to use multiple confirmations like elliots theory or divergences .

barkiman
2012-04-10, 09:22 PM
you can use support and resistance lines to identify the trend. I always wait until the price came to the support or resistance line. after the price touched the line s / r, do not jump to conclusions. wait a few moments, whether the price will bounce or continue the trend.

tajdarbet
2012-04-11, 10:02 AM
Hi, One of the most critical issues in technical analysis is true and false break out-at least for me. I searched alot about this issue then I thout of starting this new thread. So please share your ideas about true and false break out and how to detect them. Thanks!

hmm forex main yahi to ha k es main ksi bhimovemnt ka andaza karna kafi ziyada mushkil ha kioun k es main ham ko sahi tor par nahi pata chal at aha or ham newbies ko itna es k barey main knowledge nahi ha or main to app ko yahi kahoun ga k app ka experinc ehe app ko sahi tr par guide kar sakta ha

sidhu
2012-04-19, 02:59 PM
hmm forex main yahi to ha k es main ksi bhimovemnt ka andaza karna kafi ziyada mushkil ha kioun k es main ham ko sahi tor par nahi pata chal at aha or ham newbies ko itna es k barey main knowledge nahi ha or main to app ko yahi kahoun ga k app ka experinc ehe app ko sahi tr par guide kar sakta ha

maurya
2012-04-21, 03:04 PM
whether a breakout is true or false, no one knows it with 100% accuracy. the market is dynamic we all knows it, it can even go against a news due to the sentiments of the trader sometimes. In such circumstances its really a tough call to identify whether the breakout is genuine or not, so the best option will be to wait for a few moment instead of rushing in to trade

waqtitrader
2012-04-22, 12:32 PM
Hi, One of the most critical issues in technical analysis is true and false break out-at least for me. I searched alot about this issue then I thout of starting this new thread. So please share your ideas about true and false break out and how to detect them. Thanks!

han forex trading main ye bhi judge karna kafi mushkil ha k ye jo break down ha ye aarzi ha ya mustaqil es ki mugh ko aaj tak samgh nahi ai ha pat anahi ha k es ko kese shinakht kiya jata ha es liye main to ap p ko yahi kahoun ga k experince ki base par he ham es ko shinakht kr saktey hane

joget
2012-04-27, 07:51 AM
may be said that the break out is one of several ways to identify the end of a trend of price movement. often goes wrong identification of a break out level, so-called false break out. there's actually a simple way to identify the break out level is true or false, by checking it with other variables or indicators.

kuttus
2012-04-27, 08:05 AM
may be said that the break out is one of several ways to identify the end of a trend of price movement. often goes wrong identification of a break out level, so-called false break out. there's actually a simple way to identify the break out level is true or false, by checking it with other variables or indicators.

Yes never trust only one indicator apply some of the best indicator and when only all indicator will give signal about sell or buy only that time go for it other wise not

Nabi Ahmed Gill
2012-04-29, 12:54 PM
Hi, One of the most critical issues in technical analysis is true and false break out-at least for me. I searched alot about this issue then I thout of starting this new thread. So please share your ideas about true and false break out and how to detect them. Thanks!

technical analysis mara kahala main boht aham kardar ada karta ha es forum main maja technical analysis boht acha lagta han q ka es min profit earned karana ka chance boht zadaia hota han es laya mauja shaka ha ka main shai taraq ha abi technicial analysis nahi kar sakta hoon es laya main es fourm main itina profit gain nahi ka ha.

yogesh
2012-04-29, 05:33 PM
Well i think we should give some time to ensure that the break out is true, avoid big position in hurry and keep on adding position when breakout level is hold always have a stop loss so you dont lose big in case price return back in old range.

rahulsagar
2012-05-16, 12:18 PM
hmm forex main yahi to ha k es main ksi bhimovemnt ka andaza karna kafi ziyada mushkil ha kioun k es main ham ko sahi tor par nahi pata chal at aha or ham newbies ko itna es k barey main knowledge nahi ha or main to app ko yahi kahoun ga k app ka experinc ehe app ko sahi tr par guide kar sakta ha

didikebenaran
2012-05-19, 06:15 PM
good idea but all indicators means?? i can't understand , i know one indicators might be gives us wrong signal but if you use all indicators it can be makes you more hesitate about market trend !! so i prefer to use not more than three indicators .
if we also studied all the indicators we will likely spend more time because the number of these indicators are so many and it will be able to hold us in trade to be faster in having a good trading analysis

rathod
2012-05-27, 06:13 PM
i only used the higher time frame to see the breakout and you know that sometimes when we make analysis for it but the trend is still continue the breakout then we have to accep floating minus, just wait and see at the higher time frames until we see the true trend

abdillahikbal
2012-06-10, 05:03 PM
i only used the higher time frame to see the breakout and you know that sometimes when we make analysis for it but the trend is still continue the breakout then we have to accep floating minus, just wait and see at the higher time frames until we see the true trend

well sir, I also use a large timeframe in view the trend usually I use the visual direction D1 as a trend but to take the position I use the M15 timeframe and must wait for the right moment at the same trends between the two timeframes

irome
2012-06-10, 11:29 PM
Hi, One of the most critical issues in technical analysis is true and false break out-at least for me. I searched alot about this issue then I thout of starting this new thread. So please share your ideas about true and false break out and how to detect them. Thanks!

I tried much times to adopt the others stratifies and analysis for my trades some it could be batter and some time its in lose position,
there for my opinion is to make analysis and that should be true in case that you analyze the Countries situations regarding the pairs then you are in Profit..

abdullahmuslim
2012-06-10, 11:37 PM
well sir, I also use a large timeframe in view the trend usually I use the visual direction D1 as a trend but to take the position I use the M15 timeframe and must wait for the right moment at the same trends between the two timeframes

agree with you sir .. that we are in seeing the trend we should see the visual direction and also have time to see the direction we have set yourself, or all of that including the strategy in motion and doing every step, thanks

dharampal
2012-06-11, 01:02 AM
thanks friends starting this thread .very good information your share about technical analysis . every people in Forex trading think indicator which is showing is right or true analysis but some time that's are wrong and people lose money.i don't think so indicator are 100 % true.

faria
2012-06-11, 08:28 AM
I've observed many times in which industry won't allow investors very easily acquire earnings, and thus often that gives a false use which forces quite a few investors to create within buy and sell or even close the deals as well as eventually contributing to loss. Yet as they will not be often when i nevertheless really feel that quite safe to utilize cease damage.

fauzibowo
2012-06-11, 08:42 AM
I've observed many times in which industry won't allow investors very easily acquire earnings, and thus often that gives a false use which forces quite a few investors to create within buy and sell or even close the deals as well as eventually contributing to loss. Yet as they will not be often when i nevertheless really feel that quite safe to utilize cease damage.

Of course, no industry can make money easily, must need a process to obtain success in forex is like that, although the forex can provide a huge return but it must be accompanied with good trading skills.

eddy
2012-06-11, 12:58 PM
I as a trader until now and do the installation several times so that I see is a smart market traders to profit when the price of installation especially novice traders do not have experience, so the market is very happy and always get the benefit

reazforex
2012-06-11, 07:15 PM
I have observed that quite a few times market does not allow traders simply to make profit plus so many times it provides a false break out which influences many traders to participate in trade otherwise close their trades and eventually resulting in losses. But as they are not often I at a standstill experience it fairly secure to utilize stop loss.

taufiqbd
2012-06-28, 01:59 PM
When market move to certain news and move quickly then it called false break out but when market move to fundamental and technical matter that means move for a long time is called true break out.

darksaimon
2012-06-28, 02:20 PM
the Traders conceive specialised indicators to trade and to figure out the marketplace trend but at nowadays these indicators do utilise wrong signals and lay a ensnare for the traders.So traders must trade cautiously based on both theoretical and fundamental analysis

ashikrobi
2012-06-28, 09:01 PM
I have noticed several times that market does not let traders easily earn profit, and so many times it gives a false break out which forces many traders to bring in trade or close their trades and ultimately resulting in losses. But as they are not often i still feel it quite safe to use stop loss.
Thank you Mr. yogesh because i also noticed that several times in my trading. Sometimes it seems to me that the market uses some kinds of robots to reduce the profit. Market do not really let us to gain more profit. My personal thought that big account size can help in this situation. I mean if we have a big size of account we can bear enough loss and wait for the reverse of the market.

sammy
2012-06-29, 02:39 AM
actually there are some methods to identify false breakouts. like , false breakouts tend to break the support level and then retrace it, where as actual breakout breaks the level, then retrace and then again retest the zone. by this knowledge i hope you can spot the difference.

santo.plus
2012-06-29, 02:56 PM
every trader always want a good support and resistent level.and waiting for its breakout.
it is very important to select a good support or resistence level.
some time it occure a fake or foul signal.
it cant be true in 100%.

brutu
2012-06-29, 04:38 PM
trader can profit easily have seen several times that it can not, a lot of time, it is a lot of traders or to carry trade transactions, false to force very close to the market but provides out of, resulting in the loss of the end, they are very peace of mind I use the stop loss that has not been often.

shohel molla
2012-07-10, 11:49 AM
I did not know well about break out.Now i learn more about break out from the all coment.I also no true and false break out.Many Many thanks all commenter and thanks too you.All the best brother.

ahsankhan
2012-07-22, 05:58 PM
Hi, One of the most critical issues in technical analysis is true and false break out-at least for me. I searched alot about this issue then I thout of starting this new thread. So please share your ideas about true and false break out and how to detect them. Thanks!

i have noticed several times that market does not let traders easily earn profit and so many times it gives a false break out which forces many traders to bring in trade or close....

nitshar
2012-08-20, 11:16 PM
it's really a hard job to identify false breakouts, even if we are trading with a few best indicators. What i do in such situation that I do close my trades if such situation occurs without any delay. this saves me from major losses. Moreover, I don't trade in small time frames. therefore, even a false breakout leaves behind 10 to 15 pips profits.

tubeltkadal
2012-08-26, 12:53 PM
it all depends on the analysis used to get out of our trading, so better use take profit and stop loss so that we do not account MC.

esif
2012-08-30, 06:59 PM
True or false break out?
You are right dear, in order to trade breakout, there is a strategy called magic breakout strategy, it has great results, if you use it you can trade the breakout, during news times, and avoid falseouts also...

mcceducation
2012-09-13, 08:13 PM
i think the breakout is very heard system, do not trade only flow the breakout system if you are cannot see any signal because its some time give us sound loss. so can say if we are know every things about breakout system then need to trade then time.

alimartono
2012-10-06, 07:01 PM
I think it's wrong, because it is the same we waste the opportunity to earn money while we do the breakout. and when we will start again we will feel strange and confused,

truegoa
2012-10-06, 07:12 PM
Hi, One of the most critical issues in technical analysis is true and false break out-at least for me. I searched alot about this issue then I thout of starting this new thread. So please share your ideas about true and false break out and how to detect them. Thanks!

A good break out can be indicated well enough from chart pattern in some deviation numbers. Try to figure a break out potential by using good understanding of some of break out pattern, wether you can use standard chart pattern, elliot wave patter, harmonic pattern or just price action. Just ensure your self by using minimum single poin about it and a subtitute confirmation for it.

ishvara
2012-10-06, 08:13 PM
Hi, One of the most critical issues in technical analysis is true and false break out-at least for me. I searched alot about this issue then I thout of starting this new thread. So please share your ideas about true and false break out and how to detect them. Thanks!

I do not know about a true of false breakout, but i do know that i am supposed to get the profits is to find out the right direction that the break out would be in the pairs that we are trading in forex trading.

malkoumx
2012-10-16, 04:29 AM
Thank you, my friend, thank you very much for what I said.
This is what should a novice - Madame we present in neophytes - to learn from the advice and guidance of try and try, and the experience and expertise of the owners and now they are transferred to us their advice.

abayomi kolade
2012-10-16, 05:28 AM
yes we have true and also there is a false break out but in other for all trader to be at the save side of the trade we just need to get a confirmation to the direction of the trend so confirmation really go a very long way in making the numbers of pips we really wanted in the forex market all day based on my understanding

10pips
2012-10-16, 08:10 AM
i have know that if the price is really on the break out we will got a lot of the advantage from that break out, because the price must go again to more deep again after break out, many trader is got the advantage from it, but i am still do not use this strategy

bourne
2012-11-23, 01:53 PM
i think is true when the support breakout it is maybe the next target is the next support and when the resistant breakout it is maybe the next target is the next resistant. it is very simple

yassoo011
2012-11-23, 02:26 PM
There is a false break and break honest as can be expected is reflected in the market for several points, but be breaking a liar or a so-called re-test of the price and longer again and there is a break approved the closure of candles below or above trend portends change direction

Violamorehousel0490
2012-11-23, 03:05 PM
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Jack_lee
2012-11-23, 03:19 PM
it is very difficult when any false break out carried out because many big players of this for getting the maximum profit from this business. ...either in breaking resistance or support , the price will always retest the zone...

supri
2012-11-23, 03:19 PM
i also searching about the false breakout.it is very difficult when any false breakout carried out because many big players of this for getting the maximum profit from this business.

galuhtkj
2012-12-29, 01:30 PM
breakout is when prices move in full force, if we come to take a trade when the breakout occurs then we will be a lot to take advantage. breakout is instantaneous price in sideways conditions.

faysal.nitu
2012-12-29, 05:09 PM
i dont have any idea about this thing.........because before i go for any trade i will do first news analysis so for that reason i dont have to follow the technical analysis.............. now that time i also need information about this thing...... i think that will be very helpful for me to understand the market movement...............

dan.blanchot
2013-01-28, 12:30 AM
i also searching about the false breakout.it is very difficult when any false breakout carried out because many big players of this for getting the maximum profit from this business.


I think the best way to avoid entry of a false breakout or what we sometimes called as fake out is to trade after the pullback of the price at the broken levels. For example, price has break out our resistance level - at this point we cannot detect for sure whether this movement is a false breakout or true breakout. But we know that the main rule of breakout trading technique is to trade in the direction of the breakout. So, to avoid false entry, it's better to wait for price to come back at the breakout level ( pullback ) and then only we enter in the direction of the breakout - buy since the resistance level has now become support level due to the breakout.

kheya
2013-01-28, 07:26 AM
Traders realize specialized symptoms to be able to trade as well as to figure out your scene trend though occasionally these kinds of symptoms accomplish give artificial symptoms and then joked a trap with the retailer. Considerably traders must transaction cautiously according to either technical as well as necessary study.

champy
2013-01-28, 08:00 AM
we should always keep the support and resistance levels for better tradings. if any time the support is going to break then we should keep in mind the indication of any other good indicator to see whether this market will go ahead or not. this will tell us whether the break out occur or not.

Kiki
2013-01-28, 10:06 AM
break outs are the worst and people have to know and understad that there are so many ways and when you understand everything and be the the best in these kind of a good ways. there are so many ways people lose from breakouts. the worst. the worst in the world. the worst in the world. be the best ways to understand everything in trading and understading its a good trades. there a re so man yways people willhave to know these market.

adnanr
2013-03-13, 06:35 PM
either the break out is true or false no one that what would happen nest in the market and there for you have not consider only the technical indicators to trade in the forex because these indicator may some time false so you have to do the both technical and fundamental analysis.

I.I.P
2013-03-13, 06:43 PM
which you intend break for price at market? if yes. it is true sometimes price break at pattern of market do not all correctness. sometimes many spurious pattern or trap us. and to face this occurence if we can to have additional analysis to clarify whether this spurious or original sinyal.

sammyanhi
2013-04-27, 10:08 PM
should try to wait for the time to break out

to take decisions and also it's good to use a suitable indicator

raja123
2013-04-28, 05:02 PM
yes forex trading is very difficult task because every time you didn't get true signal by using indicator or some time your own mistake in analyse market properly.when get false siganl that time loss happen but use of stop loss which save account from heavy loss.

ayesha faizan
2013-05-17, 12:58 AM
I have recognized numerous times that market does not let traders effectively gain profit, and such a large number of times it shows a false a bit of mercy out which compels numerous traders to accumulate trade or shut their trades and eventually bringing about losses.

Mr.JoCKeR
2013-05-27, 12:09 AM
hmm forex main yahi to ha k es main ksi bhimovemnt ka andaza karna kafi ziyada mushkil ha kioun k es main ham ko sahi tor par nahi pata chal at aha or ham newbies ko itna es k barey main knowledge nahi ha or main to app ko yahi kahoun ga k app ka experinc ehe app ko sahi tr par guide kar sakta ha

sadie margret
2013-05-30, 11:49 AM
I have recognized numerous times that market does not let traders effortlessly win profit, and such a variety of times it shows a false a bit of mercy out which constrains numerous traders to accumulate trade or shut their trades and eventually bringing about losses. Be that as it may as they are not regularly i still feel it truly sheltered to utilize stop loss.

naim10
2013-05-30, 12:03 PM
I am also looking for the wrong breakout.it's very difficult when you make a false breakout because many big players in this situation
maximum benefit from this activity.

nazeerali
2013-05-30, 12:10 PM
i do not know about technical analysis so i do not tell you about this but i tell you if you want anything then you must search this item in you tube then you get your desired thing .

tuannguyenlimiha
2013-05-30, 12:10 PM
When ever a break out happen... either in breaking resistance or support , the price will always retest the zone.if a false break out happen then the market will come in ward the level. and a successful break out will first break , then test the breakout level .... then it will go for further movement.:)))

sangam
2013-05-30, 05:39 PM
When ever a break out happen... either in breaking resistance or support , the price will always retest the zone.if a false break out happen then the market will come in ward the level. and a successful break out will first break , then test the breakout level .... then it will go for further movement.:)))

I have been observing the markets since much time. I see that when the markets are in a breakout mode the trader must keep waiting till the right times and then only open his trades. This will make him see if the breakout in the markets is for real or not.

And this is not easy to do :)

raja jee
2013-05-30, 07:57 PM
Sometimes the breakouts are true because sometimes it happens that the market movement is against the forex news and traders loose money who trade according to the news. So as far as i think it is better to wait and do not open a position in the market until you have a clear about the market movement.

ranazaibi
2013-05-30, 08:07 PM
Well my dear i agree with you it is beyond any price and does not jump back above the break at the stop losses after the out break as - it is not worth putting your sl just ressitance and voila support rather will be space for a false break do not have the trigger and before planning your strategy on a break to ensure that it is breaking decisive.

mutivo
2013-05-30, 08:33 PM
breakouts are very hectic and especially when you dong know what you are doing and when you will always have the best of everything and understandong is always a great thing to make sure hat it always happens

mompamompa561
2013-05-30, 08:56 PM
For me i also searching about the false breakout.it is very difficult when any false breakout carried out the because many bigest players of this for getting the maximums of the profit from this business !!

newmultan
2013-06-12, 11:15 PM
market kabi be trader ko easily profit kamany nahi dayti ess kay liyay trader koo boohat hard work karna parta hay so break out bee false ess liyay hoota hay kay traders ko cheat kiya jayay.

rehman1176
2013-06-17, 09:06 AM
true or false break out ka aksar pata ni chalta flase break out say bachnay kay lyay zaroori hota hay kay aap hamaysha apni trade lagty time stop loss lszmi use karoo taa kay false hony pay aap big loss say bach jaoo.

sushmita
2013-06-17, 11:30 PM
Mjy is ka bary main koi information nahi ha kyu k abhi tak main ny koi breakout ka samna nahi kia.to agar mjhy is ki information hoti to main zaror shear karti.Thanks.

hamadraza
2013-06-18, 12:28 AM
Dear mera true of false break k barai mai ziada knowledge nhe hai Q k mai ne abi is topic ko parha nhe hai. also mai apne seniors say is topic pa discuss zaror karn ga ta k next time mai is bat ka ans day skn.

sameen raheel
2013-06-18, 10:18 PM
market does not let seller easily earn profit, and so dozens times it gives a false intervals out which forces loads merchant to bring in commerce or close their trades and ultimately resulting in losses. But as they are not often i still brains it quite safe to use stop loss.

shaikhjundi
2013-06-18, 10:31 PM
Hi, One of the most critical issues in technical analysis is true and false break out-at least for me. I searched alot about this issue then I thout of starting this new thread. So please share your ideas about true and false break out and how to detect them. Thanks!

han yahan par app ek baat yaad rakho k koi bi app ko ye nai keh sakta ha k main jo analysis karta houn woh 100% sahi hotey haen kiun k es main koi bhi aese analyss nahi kar sakta ha kabhi kabhi app k analysis sahi hotey houn ge par her wqt ye sahi nhi ho saktey haen

iwan666666
2013-06-18, 10:45 PM
Using a stop loss and take profit is a security measure in reducing the risk of margin calls, fund management is very important in forex business. Use the funds as safe as possible to avoid a margin call

kobir776
2013-06-18, 10:59 PM
I think fundamental analysis then technical because we don't know whether a breakout is true or false. Beginners should learn about the indicators well to be depended into it. Thanks

rai ashraf313
2013-06-18, 11:10 PM
It is really to examine or analyze the most critical issues in technical analysis is true and false break out if you trade the trend breakout strategy. You have to must gain some knowledge in order to understand it completely.

turbin
2013-06-18, 11:11 PM
sometimes the market is breaking over or below the resistance which is giving the indication whether the market will grow more and will try to come back. so the proper judgement of the breakouts is necessary.

jeetnrimi
2013-06-23, 01:46 PM
Technical analysis se hi true breakout ka pata chalta hai magar ise read karne ke liye iska experience aur knowledge chahiye. ye baat sahi hai ki kabhi kabhi false breakout hota hai aur hum bahut loss kar jate hai. Agar technical analysis ke saath fundamental analysis kiya jaye to false breakout se hone wale loss se hum bach sakte hai.

setiawanedi
2013-06-23, 02:10 PM
so far I have not had the ability to analyze the original signal or fake so I was also often caught up in my own analysis. therefore it is up this sat I also look for some solutions can improve my ability to obtain a positive signal in order to perform.

hghgff
2013-06-23, 02:12 PM
With regard to the false leaks is just as price advances again above the level escape after causing a lot of the late losses so there is no point to set current resistance load sl only or can help enough escape false did not encourage him to escape from its current strategy, I assure you that this is really critical.

nadeembali
2013-06-23, 03:25 PM
there is no indicator available that the break out is true or false for juding this you have to strong your analysis and technique to find out real break out in forex market.

princeua
2013-06-23, 03:29 PM
This depends on the daily movement of the market means that if the market has some of the daily economic news true as possible to take depending on the price movement and the exit direction to support or resistance lines, but this depends on economic news.

fazalraheem
2013-06-23, 03:59 PM
some time market mai kch aisy changes ati hain k trader ko is bat ka pata nhe chalta k market ja kahan rhi hai, or is ki wja say unhe majboran ya to apni trade band karna hoti hai ya phr rokni hoti hai ta k mazeed loss say bacha jae. ye false trading hoti hai.

kurniawan
2013-06-28, 05:59 PM
it's challenging to detect fake breakouts. as well as break outs that occur may jump in opposite direction.
therefore we would like to work with multiple confirmations like elliots theory or divergences.

asingh601
2013-07-03, 10:44 AM
sahi aur galat breakout to aapko swayam dhundhna hoga aap tenchinal ke sath kisi aur trading strategy ko bhi dekh len agar aapko technical thik se samajh na aarha ho to dusra koi strategy acche se aa jae samajh me.

mutivo
2013-07-16, 04:06 PM
dont Go no where anywhere trading with these kind of trading aspect and its good that you know how break outs can ruin your trades and in the same way we can be able to work for the best trading aspects

akuino
2013-07-16, 06:22 PM
We can use the Bollinger Band. This analysis is characterized by a narrow line of Bollinger Band. And by the time the lines widened, going break higher than the previous volume.

dasmika
2013-07-18, 12:05 AM
i have know that if the price is really on the break out we will got a lot of the advantage from that break out, because the price must go again to more deep again after break out, many trader is got the advantage from it, but i am still do not use this strategy

sehar jabeen
2013-07-18, 02:23 PM
so dozens times it gives a false intermission out which forces many merchant to bring in trade or close their trades and ultimately resulting in losses. But as they are not often i still sense it quite safe to use stop loss.

sajjadraza
2013-07-18, 02:42 PM
The market traders earn profits that easily does not felt several times and how many times it has to bring in business, many traders ,or as a result of the loss of their trade ,and finally close the false break which forced out.They do not but just as often I still feel very safe to use stop loss.

harfaslo
2013-07-18, 04:44 PM
i think the breakout is very heard system, do not trade only flow the breakout system if you are cannot see any signal because its some time give us sound loss. so can say if we are know every things about breakout system then need to trade then time.

sam234
2013-07-18, 08:55 PM
A true breakout is a kind of breakout whereby the price breaks a support and resistance and continues the trend but a false breakout is when the price breaks out of the support or resistance but reverses of continuing the trend.

si taym
2013-07-18, 11:15 PM
I'll share what i know and please rectify if i'm wrong, we can talk a bout real breakout when we are in an up trend and the trend is broken by a bearish candle and the opposite is right.

zuma_wae
2013-07-18, 11:57 PM
True or false break out?
Hi, One of the most critical issues in technical analysis is true and false break out-at least for me. I searched alot about this issue then I thout of starting this new thread. So please share your ideas about true and false break out and how to detect them. Thanks!
usually break out occurs when the price had jumped sideways then the price will go up or down depending on economic news that happens at this time we should place a stop order to buy or sell stop us trading right direction

mamoon
2013-07-18, 11:59 PM
Well, To avoid the break out you have to use stop loss in which you will acsertain the level to which you can bear the loss and then you have no tention of these break out that will cause loss to you.

arjulko
2013-07-19, 01:14 AM
A good break out can be indicated well enough from chart pattern in some deviation numbers. Try to figure a break out potential by using good understanding of some of break out pattern, wether you can use standard chart pattern, elliot wave patter, harmonic pattern or just price action. Just ensure your self by using minimum single poin about it and a subtitute confirmation for it.

mansal
2013-07-23, 05:56 PM
may be said that the break out is one of several ways to identify the end of a trend of price movement. often goes wrong identification of a break out level, so-called false break out. there's actually a simple way to identify the break out level is true or false, by checking it with other variables or indicators.

sodawhite
2013-07-23, 07:00 PM
that market does not let traders easily earn profit and so many times it gives a false break out which forces many traders to bring in trader or close their trades and ultimately resuling in losses but as they are not often i still feel it quites safe to use stiop loss.

greener
2013-07-31, 04:44 PM
well there are many traders who trade breakout successful although i have never trade breakout before but i know that one way to trade breakout is through the use of support and resistance and when price break ether of them then you wait for the close of the candle and then you open your order

kalulu
2013-08-04, 05:40 PM
There are soo many theory that goes from one time to the other there is the notice that have come to my mind there are the there you see a trend has broken the line that was suppose to reach the have a pull back then

sadiaali
2013-08-04, 11:25 PM
i have never trade breakout before i kow that one way to trade out is thrugh the use of the support and ristance you can bear the loss and then have no tension of these breal out that .

fuadyp
2013-08-25, 06:33 AM
i also searching about the false breakout.it is very difficult when any false breakout carried out because many big players of this for getting the maximum profit from this business.

i believe one of the best secret to avoid entry the most false breakout or what it is that we generally known as as fake out usually is to trade once the pullback of one's value along at the broken levels. by way of example, value has break out our resistance level - at this purpose we can't detect for positive whether or not this movement could be a false breakout or true breakout. however we are aware that the most rule of breakout trading technique usually is to trade within the whole direction of one's breakout. thus, to avoid false entry, its higher to look forward to value to go back along at the breakout level ( pullback ) and after that merely we enter within the whole direction of one's breakout - obtain since the resistance level has currently become support level owing to the breakout.

wnhw99
2013-08-25, 10:12 AM
yes its very hard too judge that it is true or false..many of time my prediction goes well and i am able to make profit but sometime it goes against me and i have to bear loss in it

fuadyp
2013-08-28, 04:40 AM
can be aforementioned that the break out is arguably one of many tactics to determine the tip associated with a trend of worth movement. typically goes wrong identification associated with a break out level, so-called false break out. theres truly an easy procedure to determine the break out level is true or false, by checking it with different variables or indicators.

nafimubarok
2013-08-28, 04:50 AM
nature of technical analysis it is very difficult to guess because it is only technical analysis that is formed when the market is over the road, different from the same fundamental analysis, because it analyzes the circumstances that will come

annas
2013-08-28, 05:00 AM
I think to know the break out, we have to wait a few hours and if the shape of the candle on the m5 was small and I think the market is going to break out and we can use scalping on the market like that, so it's very profitable.

goggo
2013-08-28, 07:39 AM
I think that break-out need a high liquidity and you should wait to enter with an important news to guarantee a huge move to break the important levels.

sweetzahid
2013-08-28, 07:47 AM
jab trend breakout hota ha to tab is strategy py kam kerna perta ha is liye agr ap is main successful nahi ho to ap kam na kero lakin agr ho to is ko thk sy smjh k trade open kero ni to ap loss main b jaa skty ho

sajda
2013-09-06, 12:00 PM
i think forex trading is the best way to become asuccessful trader and to earn more and more and i think you should pay attention to forex to become asuccessful trader in forex and to gain profits from forex trading business

cozard007
2013-10-03, 02:56 PM
Really, it is the market of what the trading strategy and the market says, at times, it will false break, and there is nothing a trader can do about that, but most times it will break freely, this is why you need a very tight stop loss on this.

dinem
2013-10-03, 03:23 PM
it all depends on our own where we are comfortable in the trade or not to trade with forex insta than was possible in the trade we also have to be able to learn how to trade that we can succeed

samianazir
2013-10-03, 07:24 PM
In my opinion that the techincal analysis is good but before apply in the real account you are first get the complete informatio of all type of analysis. After get the information then we are apply the demo account. After complete the safication then we are apply on the real account. So that is the best way to apply the analysis.

chanabian47
2013-10-03, 08:39 PM
Hi dear friend break out kay baya main mera knowladge zero hay or abhi taak mujhay iss ka samna nahi karna bada hay hoo sakta hay iss ki koi khas waja hoo jiss say breakout hota hay iss kay ilawa tu mujhay koi samaj nahi aati kay breakout ke kiya waja ho sakti hay dear app iss ko study karian tu yahan post karain .

zaidamjad
2013-10-08, 04:24 PM
The price wuill always to the restest the zone uif the flace fiom this situatuion break out to the happern from this businessv
that the marke will be able from this situatiomn for m,y openinon is to make the analysis anmsd tht o the hoyuld fromthis business ,

sajjad555222
2013-10-08, 06:20 PM
Several time I have notice that markets does not let traders easily earn profit, so many time it gives a false break out which forces many traders to bring in trade or close their trades and ultimately resulting in losses but as they are not often i still feel it quite safe to use stop loss.

ashvi
2013-10-08, 06:22 PM
Its very much essential for the traders to identify the correct and false break out. Most of the times the traders make losses because of trading the fake breakouts. Thus, one should be able to judge and differentiate between the correct and false breakout.

haney
2013-10-08, 06:25 PM
we need to be careful for breakout position, and the important thing at this point, do not ever guess or predict for the market price and hope to get the best position because sometimes the market still continue the position and if we bet , predict or guess it, and so it is so danger,

vetaveta
2013-10-08, 08:59 PM
knowing the break out is a real or not real break out is something that is very hard if you ask me the true is that it is something very hard to do and the best thing to do is to wait two hours after any break out to know if it is real or not

maherrr
2013-10-08, 10:23 PM
if there is a break out in trading you can enter in the trade but you must be carefull of the correction price;generally at break out points it is a good entry point but care an close stop lose are the solution to determin if it was a good or bad break out

bill
2013-10-08, 10:42 PM
when ever a break out happen... either in breaking resistance or support , the price will always retest the zone. If you see them as zones then interpreting a break will be much easier for you.

bill
2013-10-08, 10:44 PM
In case of false break out it is for a while only and price jumps back above the break out level after triggering so many stop losses.

bill
2013-10-08, 10:51 PM
I am also searching about the false breakout.it is very difficult when any false breakout carried out because many big players of this for getting
the maximum profit from this business.

bill
2013-10-08, 10:57 PM
Difficult to detect fake breakouts.or the break outs which occur might jump in opposite direction. so we need to use multiple confirmations like elliots theory or divergences.

akksh01
2013-10-08, 11:36 PM
bhai meney abi abi forex ko join kia hai mein itna nahi janta true aur false breakout kay about but is post say kafi knowledge mila mujhe breakout kay about mein isko demo account par check karo ga aur yaqenan ye kafi faida mand sabit ho ga mery liye breakout very important way for earning in forex trading.

hamza.sheikh
2013-10-12, 06:30 PM
I have noticed several times that market does not let traders easily earn profit, and so many times it gives a false break out which forces many traders to bring in trade or close their trades and ultimately resulting in losses. But as they are not often i still feel it quite safe to use stop loss. and Traders consider technical indicators to trade and to figure out the market trend but at times these indicators do give false signals and lay a trap for the traders.So traders must trade cautiously based on both technical and fundamental analysis.

ashvi
2013-10-12, 07:00 PM
There are some ways by which we can differentiate between the true and false breakout. First thing is to observe the price action. If the price has moved too much in the direction of the trend and that there is overbrought or oversold conditions then there are chances of breakouts.

fxghost
2013-10-14, 07:00 PM
breakout strategy ek profitable system hota hain bhaiya ji aap breakout strategy ka agar use karte hain to aapko ye pata hona chahiye ki true aur false breakout kyon hain breakout mein ab kafi strategy hain lekin sabse best hain trend line draw kare

krahat
2013-10-23, 12:44 PM
There are have as a lot of kinds difference between as a them but i have as a no any complete trading skill with the help of each and all them on the trading system each and all the time is them,m

awais2013
2013-10-24, 11:58 AM
yes
the most of the job full people use the strategy of the area or a zone where they use to live in the market or out side of market to have good deal for the perfect sense to collect the space for joy and help other team worker in online market stand alone and maker the team of good worker.......in good root

ashvi
2013-10-24, 02:40 PM
Its very much essential for the traders that they speculate and spot the correct trend of the forex market so that they can be able to take up the best and high probability trades and thus win in the forex market. Hence, make sure that you are not trading the false breakout.

super
2013-10-24, 04:45 PM
but as they are not often i still feel it quite safe to use stop loss or support rather have adequate gap so that a false break out don not trigger it and before planning you strategy on a break out assure that is decisive break.

mamoon2
2013-10-26, 05:18 PM
I think a trader have to explicitly search for the true or false break out because trusting on the false break out without investigating proves very much harmful. A good broker also do not gives a false break out so always choose a trusted broker.

onik
2013-10-26, 05:45 PM
a breakout is right or wrong, no one knows with 100% accuracy. the market is dynamic, everyone knows, and even sometimes it can go against the novelty of the feelings of traders. In this case the action on it is very difficult to detect, that escapism is real or not, so the best solution would be to wait a few minutes and don't rush to trade

zaheerzss
2013-10-26, 07:02 PM
market esi cheez ha jis ki moment kesi b time pe badal sakti ha .kabi ap k analysis correct hote hain lekin ap ko phir b loss ho jata ha es liye trade ki moment ka koi pata nai ha

PROFOREXMICRO
2013-11-23, 12:26 PM
Sometimes there are false breaks which are there confuse that traders and there are reversals. In order to avoid losses from such conditions a trader can consider the chart as well as combination of other market indicators to see and compare the actual trend.

Pritish007
2013-11-23, 12:49 PM
To avoid false breakout we must use bigger if such has 1 hr and above only and best is d1.....then use the volume indicator to confirm the breakout candle had a high green bar,ts normal if the price pullback again after the breakout and normally it will retrace up to 88% of the candle.

SAJANFXPRO
2013-11-23, 02:22 PM
True or false break out has been an issue over my short course of trading, i started to read and watch the charts for long time to determine the signals of real and false breakouts, i will keep reading and watching charts till i found out a unique formula concerning this critical issue!

taqroohi
2013-12-11, 09:46 AM
when ever a shatter out occur. either in shattering resistance or support , the price will habitually retest the zone.if a untrue break out occur then the market will come in ward the ****e. and a successful shatter out will first shatter , then test the shatterout ****e .... then it will go for farther movement.

mammon
2013-12-20, 10:27 PM
I think that a true or false breakout is a thing which is done with the knowledge and experience. A person who is highly skilled never get diverged in the true or false breakout. So with growing experience this issue is also solved.

saba_425
2013-12-20, 10:36 PM
sorry dear mujy iss k bary ma kuch nahi pat hai iss waj y ma iss bry kuch nbahi bata sakti hon k ya kya hai tecnical analysis kj bary ma mujy kuch nahi pat hai

sarf
2013-12-20, 10:44 PM
in my opinion ,any business or especially in trading always faces break out in two ways false or true.if the break out is right we earn more and profit able and if breakout is not profitable its a loss,but in breakout is false then here we always stand in market.

RAVI KUMAR
2013-12-20, 10:55 PM
Some time in this we see that the break out is be the some time so much of the helpful but some time it goes wrong or to the opposite of the market and this is be the so much of the confused to take care of this or not in it..

barnos
2014-01-25, 08:09 PM
han forex trading main ye bhi judge karna kafi mushkil ha k ye jo break down ha ye aarzi ha ya mustaqil es ki mugh ko aaj tak samgh nahi ai ha pat anahi ha k es ko kese shinakht kiya jata ha es liye main to ap p ko yahi kahoun ga k experince ki base par he ham es ko shinakht kr saktey hane

rtkrr1985
2014-01-25, 09:08 PM
Indicators may sometimes give false signal.At this traders may get loss in forex.So,traders should do both technical and fundamental analysis before a trade seriously.

fxghost
2014-01-27, 05:26 PM
bhaiya ji true aur false breakout jaan pana kafi mushkil hota hain lekin jab hum ek hi strategy ka use karte rahte hain to fir humare liye ye jaan pana kafi easy ho jta hain isliye hamesha ek hi strategy par lage rahe aap uske expert ban jayenge

sayuki
2014-01-27, 08:17 PM
find out true or not break out instead of the indicators used, but from a trader who has experienced a long experience in the Forex market. indicators often give a false breakout if the trader is not keen to see it.

222fur
2014-01-27, 08:23 PM
forex trading k duraan analytical analysis mein true or false breakout .this is not an issue because support aur resistance level mein fixed orice points ko aap zones ki shakal mein check kartey ho.phir aap k liey break out ko understand karna easy ho jaey gaa aur market sey easily profit earn kar saktey ho.

kmwajda
2014-01-27, 08:24 PM
I see that the breakout is very heard system, do not trades as an only flow the breakout system if you are cannot see any signal because its some time give us sound losses. so can say if we are know every things about breakout system then need to trade then times !

sunila
2014-01-28, 08:54 AM
ise samjhny k leyay humy study theak sai karna hota hai agar hum achea tarah market k trend ko samjhty hain tou hamry leyay yai mushkil nahe k samny wala trend kitna muskil hai ..

fxghost
2014-01-29, 07:35 PM
ise samjhny k leyay humy study theak sai karna hota hai agar hum achea tarah market k trend ko samjhty hain tou hamry leyay yai mushkil nahe k samny wala trend kitna muskil hai ..

Market ke trend ko janne ke liye apko market mein strong analysis karna padta hain bhaiya ji agar analysis apka acha hain to fir jarur aap badiya trend ko identify kar lenge aur trading ki entry bhi badiya hogi fir

anahita
2014-01-29, 08:25 PM
I see that the breakout is very heard system, do not trades as an only flow the breakout system if you are cannot see any signal because its some time give us sound losses. so can say if we are know every things about breakout system then need to trade then times !

I am also not one breakout traders who use the system. I prefer trading as always follow the trend. if the price is starting to change direction, then it is better I see progress first and after that I took action.

sarikhan
2014-01-29, 08:44 PM
I think all need exercise and as traders we should be able to find out all the good will and as traders we should be able to manage it well and properly, and that is a capital to train us in trading and that is very important, and from it we can enter the market with either, because it would be very useful.:doubt:

hasankhan
2014-01-29, 09:24 PM
I think it's usually a very good strategy and if we already understand it and we have to combine it with the wave then all would be very useful and I think it will all be true if we understand and will be wrong if we do not understand and that wave is very important.:yahoo:

bokhsah
2014-01-29, 09:53 PM
I think it all depends on us trading, because running Analyze with the break out of that market is indeed very good, but we have to understand how to work it so all will be started well and that's the thing that is very important and we must master it then we will be successful.:)))

runa4x4u
2014-01-29, 10:00 PM
Yes , I think we know there are many false break out and which is really really dangerous for the trader because when we see the break out and we open trade with break out strategy and put Stop Loss and it could hit for reversal. So we need to wait till the trend confirm.

sunila
2014-01-29, 11:57 PM
ik trader ko is ki samjh honi chayay kio k us nay kafi strategy use karni hoti hai agar wo always galat he choose karta rahy ga tou earning nahe kar paye ga....

ALIHAIDERGILL12233
2014-01-30, 12:24 AM
newbie r old trader ko technically trade karni chaye is kay leye zaruri hay kay aap ko technically anallysis karna ata ho tabhi aap technical trade klar ksaay hain is kay leye be news se aware rehna paray ga her waqt r is kay leye bahut zada expereince ke zarurat hay aap ko.

fxghost
2014-02-09, 07:37 PM
ik trader ko is ki samjh honi chayay kio k us nay kafi strategy use karni hoti hai agar wo always galat he choose karta rahy ga tou earning nahe kar paye ga....

galat strategy ka use karna humare liye kafi nuksaan dayak hota hain bhaiya hum kafi trade aisi karte hain jismein kafi loss hota hain aur jayda loss hone ka matlab hota hain ki hum is field ko jaldi chor dete hain

naziakhan
2014-02-10, 07:20 PM
galat strategy ka use karna humare liye kafi nuksaan dayak hota hain bhaiya hum kafi trade aisi karte hain jismein kafi loss hota hain aur jayda loss hone ka matlab hota hain ki hum is field ko jaldi chor dete hain

G bhiaya g galt trading system sa hamay kafi loss ho sakta hay ,esi liyay hamay her trading system ko test kar laina cahiyay aur agar koi trading system zaida false signal daita hay tu hamay us ko use nh karna cahiyay .:good:

Aravinth
2014-02-10, 07:24 PM
if a false break out happen then the market will come in ward the level. and a successful break out will first break , then test the breakout level .... then it will go for further movement.

heriant
2014-02-11, 09:08 AM
to find out about the breakout is true, we must understand about candlestick, when momentum breakout candlestick that has generated a strong power, then often there happen to true breakout, but if that gives a weak candlestick is then likely to happen false breakout.

kant
2014-02-11, 09:12 AM
Sir what I feel we should not be in search of breakouts to book advance trade it is always better to hold on and let the entry set ups to confirm which our trading strategy permits because just in search of early entry we loose a lot of times because of false breakouts but if we enter as per strategy then there will not be any losses due to false break outs.

berserkern
2014-03-27, 03:38 AM
this issue is everybody's biggest worries and this is why people try to make sure it is a true break out
by using as much possible of indicators and technics to make sure this is the real deal

fx.joker
2014-03-27, 04:57 AM
the moves that happen suddenly in the price, you should protect your orders by the trolling stop.
you can detect them when you don't see any indicator has gaves a signal about it in the past (acording to what i know)

bnrtahmina
2014-03-27, 10:16 AM
We've noticed once or twice that will current market will not allow traders very easily acquire profit, and for that reason often it provides phony escape which often allows many traders to bring within industry or maybe shut their positions in addition to ultimately producing loss. But when they aren't often we even now feel it really secure to utilize halt reduction.

arslan007
2014-03-28, 12:30 AM
i think its strategy but brother im new here and dont know much about strategies. but i have read it in many articles about forex.

ddm.alamgir
2014-03-28, 12:31 AM
Investors take into account techie signals to help business along with to figure out the marketplace tendency yet on occasion these kinds of signals do offer phony alerts along with put a new pitfall for that investors. Consequently investors must business cautiously depending on the two techie along with essential research.

forexsouhail
2014-03-28, 12:35 AM
some times the rend break out with the false way because the market change but this not a big problem because if you analiyse this good you loos chance will be 20 or 30 %

pqkolpona
2014-03-28, 12:36 AM
Traders look at technical indications for you to business and to determine the market industry pattern nevertheless on occasion these kinds of indications carry out give fake alerts and place any snare for your professionals. So professionals must business very carefully dependant on each technical and basic investigation.

fxghost
2014-04-02, 07:33 PM
G bhiaya g galt trading system sa hamay kafi loss ho sakta hay ,esi liyay hamay her trading system ko test kar laina cahiyay aur agar koi trading system zaida false signal daita hay tu hamay us ko use nh karna cahiyay .:good:

bhaiya ji galat trading system se loss hi hota hain aur fake jayda hote hain isliye acha hota hain ki trader wohi trading system ka use kare jismein fake signal kafi kam aate ho bhaiya ji

sunila
2014-04-02, 11:03 PM
agar ap trade mai entry laini sai pehaly us trend ko achea tarah samjhty hain tou ap ko us mai kabhi loss nahe ho ga aur kabi bhi ap bina sl k trade na kary kio k yai sawal ap k capital ka hota hai....

jiban
2014-04-03, 08:07 AM
how it is we need to determine the proper way to trade that we learn best by experiencing trade and its pretty hard to break it so we need how in business we need for refreshment of the brain as a source of relaxation in the face of difficult trading

med.fx
2014-04-03, 09:26 AM
Forget about trying to analyze 20 different markets each day. Minimize the markets you trade and this will work to sharpen your focus on the handful that you like the best. I focus on the major forex currency pairs and a few other markets like oil, gold, and the Dow.

sunni
2014-04-03, 10:04 AM
Indeed that's how trading and trading is indeed very difficult, so we should be able to take the calculation so that what happened will be done properly and all will be fine and we must remain ready and all will be fine and we should be able to focus and all will be well.:yahoo:

muripah
2014-04-03, 10:31 AM
I think we have to be ready and all is not easy in this analysis are also sometimes we make mistakes and it's also the same and all need thoroughness and all technical only and not for all also fundamental and market sentiment was too dangerous.:yahoo:

anuskha
2014-04-03, 11:25 AM
Indeed such is the forex and this business is very difficult and it took all the self control is good. and all the needed analysis so wrongly and rightly so as it happens, the trader should we can have a response when there is a sudden movement and that is a sentiment the market so all should be well prepared.:doubt:

sehatfx
2014-04-03, 06:42 PM
Sometimes the breakouts are true and do not open a position in the market until you have a clear about the market movement Have the trigger and before planning your strategy on a break to Ensure That it is breaking decisive.

zamataali
2014-04-03, 06:44 PM
good analyst must focus on the near upcoming the future trend and also the future economic conditions also to see the critical market issues and also the movement index and than trade for the sake of profit.true and the transparent efficient trading system provide the more good earning balance.

med.fx
2014-04-03, 08:19 PM
Following the market on a daily basis is important if you are serious about making money as a trader. Its very similar to reading a book; if you put the book down for a week or two you will probably forget where you left off and what was happening. When it comes to trading,

fxghost
2014-04-03, 10:06 PM
agar ap trade mai entry laini sai pehaly us trend ko achea tarah samjhty hain tou ap ko us mai kabhi loss nahe ho ga aur kabi bhi ap bina sl k trade na kary kio k yai sawal ap k capital ka hota hai....

bhaiya ji agar trading galat trend par kiya jaaye to usmein kafi loss hone ka dar rahta hain hamesha trader ko sahi signal trend par hi order lagana chahiye taki wo kam loss mein jaaye bhaiya ji aur acha kama sake

sunila
2014-04-03, 10:26 PM
humy entry lainay sai pehlay jitna ho saky is par serch karna hota hai k agay breakout kaisay a raha hai aur kahe news tou nahe hai yai sab daikh kar he is mai humy entry laini hoti hai tou he hum agay work kar sakty hain,,hamari trade profti mai a sakti hai..

manzoorgujar
2014-04-12, 05:23 PM
when market is break out then trader loss his capital for better trading you required a experience and knowledge and trading skill.before trading you saw a trading support level and resistance of pair which you want to trade but for earning you trade with control your emotion.

sushma
2014-04-12, 05:25 PM
whenever a rest out and about happen... either inside breaking amount of resistance or even support, the price can constantly retest the particular sector. in case a untrue break out happen then the market comes in ward the exact level. as well as a prosperous break out can first break, after that examination the particular breakout levels.... after that it's going to buy additional mobility.

SANJAYKUMAR2014
2014-08-25, 01:35 PM
false or true breakout tecnical trader hi dhyan mein rakhtei hai mere khayal se is market mein agar trend breck ho raha hai to aap ko dhyan dena chahi ki ye trend kab aur kyou break ho raha hai is market mein flase breack out mein kafi trade fas jatein hai aur at the end unko loss hi hota hai market mein trading k liye pehle aap k paas knowledge hona jaroori hai .agar do ya do se jyada baar market mein aisa hota hai to aap ko news bhi jaroor check karna chahiye.

fxghost
2014-08-29, 03:41 PM
bhaiya ji bahut se breakout aise hote hain jo fake hote hain lekin kafi jayda breakout agar hota hain to wo true hi hote hain aapko ab ye janna hoga ki breakout sahi hain ya fir galat iske liye apna analysis karna hoga

jeetnrimi
2014-09-25, 07:36 AM
Bhai, true breakout ko agar hum find kar paate hai aur uske anussar trading karte hai to humen bahut profit ho sakta hai, magar true breakout ka pata lagana kabhi kabhi muskil ho jata hai kyoki bahut saare breakout aise hote hai jo false hote hai aur humen wrong trade open karne par majboor karte hai, isiliye humen stop loss ke saath trading karni chahiye.

raedsagga
2014-09-26, 12:15 AM
when ever a break out happen... either in breaking resistance or support , the price will always retest the zone.if a false break out happen then the market will come in ward the level. and a successful break out will first break , then test the breakout level .... then it will go for further movement.

atifrana
2014-11-20, 09:07 AM
Forex trading business mein achi analysis k liye technical analysis bohat important rehti hai hum ko technical analysis must kerni chahye is se achi analysis hoti hai baki fundamental analysis b kerni chahye means sub se analysis kere kisi aik per depend na kere.

bilalahsan
2014-11-20, 10:48 AM
breakout trading is good trading trading strategy but you need to anylsis properly that the breakout is real or fake you can use some indicator to identify breakout and you can aplly stop loss to avoide from big lose if breakout false.

sana111
2014-11-20, 11:51 AM
Iss main hum ko treade main true and false iss main treade main iss ko koi ihhmayat nahiee hy iss main too anylises ka apna mind hootha hy iss main kyiaa hoo sakthaa hy.

asingh601
2014-12-07, 11:18 PM
bhai ji breakout me ye hi ek khami hai ki isme false breakout pakadna thoda mushkil hota hai aur sahi breakout isme kam hi milte hain isliye breakout ke sath agar kuch aur mila kar trading karenge to jyada aasni hogi market samjhne me.

moukdhawn
2014-12-19, 01:01 AM
The Traders consider technical indicators to trade and to figure out the market trend but at times these indicators do gives as false signals and laedy as a traped for the traders.So traders must trade cautiously based on both technical and fundamental analysis !!

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akash4u4ever
2014-12-24, 07:58 PM
true false breakout ka pta lagana easy hai bus aapko iske liye strong support aur resistance ka pta hona chahiye news ki achi knowledge ho agar aapko pta hai koi khas news nae hai market ne break kar niche move kiya hai aur daily movement uski puri ho chuki hai to wo break false break hoga market up move kr jayega

bhola
2014-12-24, 08:09 PM
breakout ka pta lagana easy hai bus aapko iske liye
strong support aur resistance ka pta hona chahiye news ki
achi knowledge ho agar aapko pta hai koi khas news nae hai
market ne break kar niche move kiya hai aur daily movement
uski puri ho chuki hai to wo break false break hoga market up
move kr jayega

asdfg12345
2014-12-29, 08:59 AM
ji ha maine dekhqa hai es business me bahoot hi fake accont log bana lte hai aur ume kuchh bhi post karte rahate hai so ye chahiye ki ham es forex ke midium sahi path pe work kare aur dusaro bhi achhi salah de es business ke parti galt rai kabhi bhi nahi dena chahiye

fxearner
2015-01-09, 04:56 PM
bhaiya ji fake movement bhi bahut hi jayda ho rahe hain hum logo ke liye kafi acha hota hain ki hum breakout hone ke baad thoda sa patience rakhe sahi breakout ka pata chale tohi order lagana chahiye bhaiya ji

hanji trader ko breakout ke time agar trade lagana hai to bahut soch samajh kar chalna hoga kyunki fake break me trader agar fass gaya to usko kaafi loss ess business me hojayenga,trader ko yaha hamesha achhe se sochlena he thik rahenga..

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2015-01-09, 05:03 PM
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arelonso2015
2015-01-09, 08:14 PM
So far, I don't know how to use this true and false breakout in technical analysis. By the way, I now trade using an EA and are using a single workable strategy in my trading.

miyanmohsin
2015-01-13, 01:16 PM
bhai main aik new trader hu mujy abi false breakout ka koi bi information nahi hay. Main forex price action learn kar raha hu jis say main false break out ko define kar sakta hu. forex trading aik bohat hi zayda smart business hay jis ko bohat hi smart way say run karna hota hay.

ishvara
2015-01-13, 02:28 PM
I think that we all need to make sure that we have a good signal before we trade Forex/ Breakouts occur in Forex, But a trader still needs to use their preferred Indicators to detect it.

Profit Maker
2015-01-13, 02:34 PM
Looking for and trading breakouts can be highly profitable for a trader. Unfortunately, some anticipated and expected break-outs may fizzle-out and fail. Stategies and techniques are then developed. I don't think the strategy suggested can be effective. As far as I know, major breakouts occur in higher time frame, say 4hr/1day. If I may conjecture, the examples given are tops or bottoms. If you will look further to the left of the given charts, my guess is there is a previous trend before. From what I know, break-outs usually emerge from a previous trend. After the consolidation, you can now expect a breakout from the previous high or low. Until finally it hits a top or bottom for reversal. Looking for breakouts in short time frames is not very accurate and may turn out to be false. Direction is dictated by the underlying longer-term trend

sheikhadeel
2015-01-31, 03:00 AM
if you more concentate on breakout u will not do your trading.Hmay trading ko apne skills use kr ka krne chahya na ka indicator sa ku ka bht sa indicator fake ha wh ghlat guide krty ha r hm phas jaty ha r loss kr bthty ha..

forexlive
2015-01-31, 06:51 AM
bai saab ji jab koi chart par trading karte hai tuh es kam mai breakout karte hai tuh hume es kam mai market es levele ko test karta hai bai saab ji es layi market mai support and rsi bhout he important hai bai saab ji

fankora
2015-01-31, 11:27 AM
There are difference between the breakout and the fake out. so that the trader should not trade in the fake out of the trade. i think that the trader need to realize the breakout and the fake out so that they can make the good decision of the trade and make the profit

Bigboss
2015-01-31, 07:41 PM
Dear mujy ziayda tu nai pata ha break out lekin itna pata ha ager hum true breakout ka pata laga ly tu easily bohat ziayda pip ly sakty ha lekin kuch fake break out b hoty ha jin k waja se ziayda loss hota ha

loys
2015-01-31, 11:38 PM
hello my dear mate trader, i think In case of false break out it is for a while only and price jumps back above the break out level after triggering so many stop losses - so it is not worth to set your sl just at the ressitance or support rather have adequate gap so that a false break out, so be carfull in your trade.

Muskan
2015-01-31, 11:39 PM
I have noticed several times that market does not let traders easily earn profit and so many times it gives a false break out which forces many traders to bring in trade or close their trades. So traders must trade cautiously based on both technical and fundamental analysis.....

CooKies
2015-01-31, 11:51 PM
I think my brother that false trend in the Forex market fracture requires the use of some of the indicators and technical analysis tools to detect the false from the true fracture fracture ,, because it can cause a great loss to the dealer if he does not know the distinction between true and false fracture fracture

promoneyfx
2015-02-01, 02:01 AM
Dear mujy ziayda tu nai pata ha break out lekin itna pata ha ager hum true breakout ka pata laga ly tu easily bohat ziayda pip ly sakty ha lekin kuch fake break out b hoty ha jin k waja se ziayda loss hota ha

Jab bhi markets me lambe time tak trends chalte rehte hai tab hame khud pata chal paata hai ki kis tarah ki trading ko hame karna better hoga aur isliye hame trades ko karne se pehle trends ko ekdum theek tarah se samajh kar hi trades open karna hoga.

goggo
2015-02-01, 04:25 AM
I think that this is one of the difficult things that you will face in the forex while you make your analysis , you can't know if the market will breaks the support or the resistance in that time only after a good time and after the close of the daily candle.

master786
2015-02-01, 12:59 PM
mere hisab se bearkout true hota hai.me khud breakout pe work karta ho muje to acha profit milta hai mene aj tak jitni bi trade ki hai muje to acha profit mila hai.

mukeshfx
2015-02-12, 10:26 AM
Aapka kahna bilkul sahi hai bhai, Breakout strategy ke sath trading karne se humen bahut profit milati hai magar kabhi kabhi hum ye decide nahi kar pate hai to breakout jo hua hai wo true breakout hai yaa phir koi fake breakout hai.

abvi009
2015-02-12, 01:58 PM
we can Use the supports and resistance to conform the breakouts and retracement on forex trading charts.We need to only trade on closed candle.As running candle tells nothing.If we avoid trading on running candle I can avoid such falce breakouts.

shahid079
2015-02-12, 02:29 PM
if you see the break out than you must have observed this thing that this break out happen due to the breaking of the support and resistance level. and at that time if you analysis is right then you can set a trade and can get a really good profit through this breakout.

sajid1240
2015-02-12, 02:30 PM
I have noticed several times that market does not let traders easily earn profit and so many times it gives a false break out which forces many traders to bring in trade or close their trades and a successful break out will first break then test the breakout level then it will go for further movement.....

awannadeem
2015-02-12, 02:45 PM
True or fake breakout say bachny k leay aap ko khud technical analysis main experience karna chaey, q k kisi ki analysis par aap pooray tarah say baroosa nai kar sakty, har qism k analysis main tajarba hasil kar k khud main confidence paida karain aur khud main ehtmad paida karain.

mant123
2015-02-12, 11:52 PM
My dear friend true and false breakout is market strategy in forex trading true breakout is not return again his price and false breakout return his price very soon.

ishvara
2015-02-15, 08:27 PM
One really cannot tell 100% whether a Breakout is true or false. The reason being that Forex trading is a kind of business where one can only speculate, It is never perfec.

apt51083
2015-02-15, 09:11 PM
A false breakout is when value incidentally moves above or underneath a key backing or safety level, however then later withdraws over to the same side as it began. This is the most dire outcome imaginable for a breakout broker that enters in an exchange when value breaks

PRAYOGO
2015-02-15, 09:21 PM
marke will be able from this situation is to make the analysis anmsd tht o the hoyuld fromthis business and hope to get the best position because sometimes the market still continue the position and if we bet

d5358
2015-02-15, 10:44 PM
No matter if you're an investor, day trader or swing trader, you are exposed to the whipsaw of the danger zone - and it may be hurting you if you act impulsively. Anytime there is a pattern characterized by particular boundaries within which a stock fluctuates, a "danger zone" develops. This is the area just outside the established range. It can be called a danger zone because there are many conflicting interests in this area.

There are those that want the breakout to occur and are making transactions in that direction. There are those expecting the range to continue and are "fading the breakout." There are also the "predators" who may trigger the breakout only to drive the price back into the range. Finally, there are those who are waiting for the momentum to wane and then aggressively take the trade back the other direction.

Here we are going to focus on capitalizing on false breakouts by using a "danger zone" in conjunction with other indicators to verify that sometimes we should not trust the breakout, and should trade in the opposite direction instead. (Learn how to distinguish tops and bottoms in the equity market when short selling

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Experience the Danger Zone
All experienced traders have seen it. A stock (or any instrument) has been within a defined trading range for some time and appears to have found its comfort zone. Buying ceases at a certain level and then selling commences. Selling continues until buying comes in aggressively at the low of the range and sellers back off. However, this balance breaks suddenly and the stock begins to move aggressively higher out of the range. The movement is sharp, attracting the attention of other traders and they pile in long for the big "breakout" trade.

The longs are happy for a few minutes, but then a trading horror story is realized as prices plummet back into the trading range and the selling continues at a pace far more aggressive than the buying. The trader feels taken; caught by a whipsaw at an opportune level for the predators. Moreover, the trader likely incurred slippage on both entry and exit in the fast-moving market, making this trade twice as frustrating. Factor in transaction costs, and the scenario becomes even worse.

The real problem is that this happens very often, and traders mistakenly believe that this will change. As algorithms and black box trading becomes more prominent, it's likely the opposite will occur and these whipsaws will become even more prominent. Still, traders need to see this as an opportunity and not a detriment. In other words, each of us will need to be a predator from time to time, and capitalize on the market mistakes of others.

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What Is the Danger Zone?
As previously explained, the danger zone is the area where large competing interests come together. It is the pivotal level that was moved through triggered orders in both long-term and short-term directions, including the scalpers that may be involved in the trade. This all normally happens within a confined space around the previous defined range (or pattern) after the stock breaks out. True breakouts and false breakouts will possess certain characteristics that can be analyzed and implemented in profitable strategies.

Working the Zone
As with any strategy, this one is not 100% accurate, but by being informed we can capitalize on speculation-driven breakouts that have failed. The words "have failed" are used on purpose, since we are going to exhibit patience and wait for the market to signal us to enter in the opposite direction of the break. In fact, we are not going to trade in the danger zone at all.

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Becoming a Predator
Traders need to show patience to capitalize on the exuberance of other traders. Also, this strategy may mean missing the chance to get into some legitimate breakouts early - waiting until we are sure that a profitable trade can be executed. If it is a true breakout, it will move in the upward direction for some time. Therefore, we have set levels marked in the securities we follow, and likely have some sort of "alert" to notify us when a level is surpassed. When the security moves through an old high we quickly check two metrics:

Volume: Increased volume on a breakout increases its odds of success, especially on upside breakouts. Light volume on a breakout means it is more likely to fail. However, decreasing volume on a downside breakout doesn't necessarily increase the likelihood a breakout will fail.
Divergence: A relative strength indicator (RSI) or some other oscillator can be used to signal that a reversal is probable. If RSI is failing to make new highs as the price continues to rally, we have confirmation that this breakout has a good chance of escalating aggressively in the near future.
We wait for our trade and, if the other above indicators are working in our favor, we will likely see the trade soon. If not, we wait for another opportunity.

Entry
We enter our trade when price moves back through the breakout point into the previous price range. Add a small buffer to this price to adjust for potential slippage.

Stop
Our stop on the trade is just above the previously observed high, which we set as our target price. We know false breakouts occur, so we want to be out of our position before the pullback happens. (For more on stop orders, see A Logical Method Of Stop Placement.)

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Becoming a Predator
Traders need to show patience to capitalize on the exuberance of other traders. Also, this strategy may mean missing the chance to get into some legitimate breakouts early - waiting until we are sure that a profitable trade can be executed. If it is a true breakout, it will move in the upward direction for some time. Therefore, we have set levels marked in the securities we follow, and likely have some sort of "alert" to notify us when a level is surpassed. When the security moves through an old high we quickly check two metrics:

Volume: Increased volume on a breakout increases its odds of success, especially on upside breakouts. Light volume on a breakout means it is more likely to fail. However, decreasing volume on a downside breakout doesn't necessarily increase the likelihood a breakout will fail.
Divergence: A relative strength indicator (RSI) or some other oscillator can be used to signal that a reversal is probable. If RSI is failing to make new highs as the price continues to rally, we have confirmation that this breakout has a good chance of escalating aggressively in the near future.
We wait for our trade and, if the other above indicators are working in our favor, we will likely see the trade soon. If not, we wait for another opportunity.

Entry
We enter our trade when price moves back through the breakout point into the previous price range. Add a small buffer to this price to adjust for potential slippage.

Stop
Our stop on the trade is just above the previously observed high, which we set as our target price. We know false breakouts occur, so we want to be out of our position before the pullback happens. (For more on stop orders, see A Logical Method Of Stop Placement.)

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Stop
Our stop on the trade is just above the previously observed high, which we set as our target price. We know false breakouts occur, so we want to be out of our position before the pullback happens. (For more on stop orders, see A Logical Method Of Stop Placement.)

Profit Target(s)
Many exit strategies can be used once in the position. False breakouts can be aggressive but also short lived. Therefore, a preferred method is to take some profits at a 1:1 reward-risk ratio. If the desired level of risk is a potential 25-cent loss on the trade, take most of your profits after a 25-cent move in your favor. Exit the remainder of the position at 2:1 and 3:1 reward to risk.

Bottom Line
False breakouts occur all the time. We can be on the wrong side of them or the profitable side of them. When a security enters the danger zone, watch for signs of weakness. When they appear, the strategy is simple: enter in the opposite direction of the breakout when prices move back through the breakout price, set a stop at the extreme and take profits at multiples of risk. You can also choose to use other indicators to help in our trading decisions, but you should only use the strategy on patterns and not while strong trends are in place. (A thorough understanding of these can help you locate important entry/exit points when the markets make the turn northward.

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False breakouts can lead to ugly situations.
We can avoid many false breakouts by waiting for the candle to close.
To save time we can use price alerts based on candles’ closing prices.
Breakout trading can be a rewarding strategy in volatile markets, but is often plagued with fake signals and false breakouts that can discourage even the best traders. Today, we will cover what a fake breakout is and how to avoid them in our trading.

d5358
2015-02-15, 11:04 PM
What is a False Breakout?
A false breakout is when price temporarily moves above or below a key support or resistance level, but then later retreats back to the same side as it started. This is the worst case scenario for a breakout trader that enters in a trade as soon as price breaks. We are immediately faced with a red arrow on our chart and the breakout we traded is looking less and less real.
Being forced to watch as breakout trades disintegrate in front of us is tough to swallow, and we are left deciding whether we should stay in and “ride it out” or close the trades for a quick loss. Neither of those options sound very appealing. So to avoid this in the future, we need to add a new rule to our existing breakout trading strategy.

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How to Avoid a False Breakout
The solution to this problem is actually pretty simple (as depicted above). Rather than act on a trade in real time as soon as price breaks a key level, we should wait until the candle closes to confirm the breakout’s strength. So the idea of setting entry orders above or below a support or resistance levels to automatically get us into a breakout trade is not a very good one. Entry orders allow us to get “wicked” into breakout trades that never actually materialize.
On the surface, this would lead us to believe that the only way to effectively trade breakouts, is to be at our trading terminals ready to act as soon as the candle closes in breakout territory. Once the candle closes, we can then open our position that hopefully has a higher chance of success. But what if we don’t have all day to sit around and wait for breakouts?

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Setting Alerts Based on the Candles’ Close Prices
So, if physically waiting at your computer for a breakout is not an option, I recommend using a price alert that uses each candle’s closing price as its trigger. In other words, you will only receive an alert if support or resistance is broken and remains broken through the close of that specific candle. That way you can receive your alert, log in on your computer or mobile application and place the trade. To set this up, we need to right-click on our chart and select “Add Price Alert.”

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Avoiding False Breakouts
This tiny tweak can make a big impact on your breakout trading. But like always, I recommend making these changes to your strategy in a demo environment before testing them with real money

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Recognizing False Breakouts And Whipsaws


Swing traders encounter false breakouts and whipsaws throughout their careers. That shouldn't be surprising, though, because all we're doing is playing an odds game.

Even a perfect setup can fall apart for no reason and with little warning. This reminds us that risk management is mandatory if we want to trade successfully.

Breakouts occur in zones of conflict. Both sides of the market are very passionate at these turning points, but no one knows how much force is required to carry price into a sustainable trend. So any position you take near a breakout level carries considerable risk, no matter how perfect a pattern looks.

Price can respond in different ways to breakouts. First, it may carry through successfully to higher levels. Second, it may generate whipsaws that force losses on both sides of the market. Third, it may trap buyers in a false move and start a trend in the opposite direction. Each of these outcomes requires careful trade management.

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A successful breakout occurs in three phases. It begins when price breaks through resistance on increased volume. We'll call this the action phase. Price expands a few points or ticks, and then reverses as soon as buying interest fades.

This starts the reaction phase. The market sells off and spawns the first pullback, where fresh buyers see a chance to get in close to the breakout price. If all systems are go, a second rally kicks in and carries price above the initial breakout high. This marks the resolution phase.

The three phases of a successful breakout depend on certain volume characteristics. Demand must exceed supply during the initial breakout. Volume should "dry up" when it pulls back in the reaction phase. And new buyers need to jump in to ensure a successful resolution phase. Whipsaws and false breakouts result when these supply-demand dynamics fall out of balance.

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What exactly are whipsaws? Simply stated, they're choppy price swings back and forth through common support or resistance levels. Natural tug and pull generates most whipsaws.

But hidden hands also manipulate price through common stop levels in order to generate volume, and intentionally wash out one side of the market. Whatever the source, whipsaws are responsible for many of the losses in a swing trader's portfolio.

Whipsaws emerge when a breakout can't generate an efficient reaction phase. This failure may or may not trigger a major reversal. The pullback shakes out weak hands and forces price back into resistance.

But there's usually a healthy supply of buyers throughout the choppy movement. These bulls step in repeatedly to support the market. A successful breakout can begin quickly after a whipsaw fades out. The loss of volatility actually triggers a buying signal on many trading screens. This starts a bounce that generates the momentum needed to carry price up and beyond the last high.

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Major reversals occur when price action traps one side of the market. Many traders wait to enter positions at key breakout levels. Once these folks execute their trades, they're at the mercy of the market.

In other words, their profits depend on others seeing the breakout and jumping in behind them. False breakouts occur when this second crowd fails to appear.

An overbought, one-sided market can drop quickly below a breakout level. This throws all the traders who bought the breakout into losing positions. Without the support of fresh buyers, a stock can fall from its own weight. Each incremental low triggers more stops and increases fear within the trapped crowd. Momentum builds to the downside, breaks key support and invites fresh short-sale signals from a whole new batch of traders.

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Average True Range (ATR) is an indicator used to measure volatility. IT was introduced to the trading community by J. Welles Wilder in his 1978 book, New Concepts in Technical Trading Systems.

Mathematically, the formula is similar to an exponential moving average and was relatively easy to calculate before computers were available.

The first step in calculating the ATR is to find the true range, which is defined as the largest absolute value of the:

1. High – Low,
2. High – Previous Close, or
3. Low – Previous Close

Although the true range or ATR can be calculated for any time frame, we will use daily data as an example. Since the ATR is designed to measure volatility, the true range will look back to the previous day to measure the range when a gap or inside day occurs in the market.

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A gap is a day when the market opens above the previous day's high or below the previous day's low. The true range accounts for the gap in the volatility, while simply measuring the distance between the high and low would miss the size of the actual daily price move.

An inside day is a day with a small difference between the high and the low, and by looking back to the previous day's close a better view of trading activity and volatility can be obtained.

The true range is calculated each day, and ATR is commonly found using 14 days:

Current ATR = [(Yesterday's ATR * 13) + (Today's True Range)] / 14

How Traders Use It

ATR can be used to confirm a price breakout. Breakout moves are likely to be accompanied by an increase in ATR. Trading ranges will generally be consistent with lower values of the ATR.

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Why It Matters To Traders

Price charts often show a false breakout. Price consolidations will generally take place while the value of ATR is low. False breakouts occur when price makes a small move out of the consolidation pattern and then falls back into the trading range.

Sustained breakouts will often be accompanied by a rising ATR, and trading only when ATR confirms the price action should help reduce the number of losing trades

koolwapm
2015-02-16, 02:33 AM
The trader have to explicitly searched for the true or the false break out because trusting on the false break out without investigating as proves very much harmful. A good broker also do not gives as a false break out so always choose a trusted brokers !

powallhda
2015-02-16, 02:57 AM
I find that its very much essential for the traders that they speculate and spot the correct trend of the forex market so that they can be able to taked as up the best and highest as probability as a trades and thus win in the forex market. Hence, make sure that you are not trading the false breakouts !

wadafopw
2015-02-16, 03:19 AM
The trader have to explicitly search for the true or false break out because trusting on the false break out without investigating proves very much harmful. A good broker also do not gives a false break out so as aalways choose a trusted brokers !!!

d5358
2015-02-16, 08:19 AM
The market is generating its fair share of colorful phraseology these days. Many traders are calling it nerve-racking or unreliable.
this market really any different from the past? Of course it's not. The market is bobbing and weaving the same way all stocks, sectors and indices do the majority of the time. Prices trend for a little while and then spend endless weeks testing higher and lower boundaries. Our frustration in playing this market is really a matter of perception, not reality.
The real driver for trader pain this year is the endless series of whipsaws and false breakouts. It feels as though common knowledge of price levels is being used against traders in a conscious and diabolical manner. Of course there's a reason for this ominous feeling. It's absolutely true.

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Of course it's not. The market is bobbing and weaving the same way all stocks, sectors and indices do the majority of the time. Prices trend for a little while and then spend endless weeks testing higher and lower boundaries. Our frustration in playing this market is really a matter of perception, not reality.
The real driver for trader pain this year is the endless series of whipsaws and false breakouts. It feels as though common knowledge of price levels is being used against traders in a conscious and diabolical manner. Of course there's a reason for this ominous feeling. It's absolutely true.

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So how do we deal with whipsaws and false breakouts? First, realize that traders spend too much time predicting the future and not enough time just managing what the future offers. Then remember that everything we do in our trading activities is simply an odds game. This reminds us that risk management is a required skill for survival.
Breakouts, as well as breakdowns, occur in zones of conflict. Both sides of the market are very passionate at these turning points, but no one knows how much force will be needed to carry price into a sustainable trend. So any position you take near these key levels carries considerable risk, no matter how perfect your patterns and setups look.

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Price can respond in different ways to breakouts: It can carry through successfully to higher levels; it can generate whipsaws that force losses on both sides of the market; and it can trap buyers in a false move and start a trend in the opposite direction. Each of these outcomes requires customized trade-management rules.
Here is a set of observations about breakouts and breakdowns that has saved me thousands of dollars over the years. For the sake of simplicity, I'll focus on the breakout scenario. Commit these to memory and use them the next time you're working through these setups. You'll see the universal dynamics here in all markets and all time frames.

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Successful breakouts occur in three phases. They begin when price breaks through resistance on increased volume. We'll call this the action phase. Price then expands a few points or ticks and reverses as soon as buying interest fades.
This starts the reaction phase. The market sells off and spawns the first pullback, where fresh buyers see a chance to get positioned near the breakout price. If all systems are go, a second rally kicks into gear and carries price above the initial breakout high. This marks the resolution phase, which confirms the initial rally through resistance.

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The three phases of a successful breakout are dependent upon certain volume characteristics. Demand must exceed supply during the initial breakout. Volume should dry up when it pulls back in the reaction phase. Then a healthy supply of new buyers needs to jump in to ensure a successful resolution phase.
Whipsaws and false breakouts result when these supply-demand dynamics fall out of balance. Whipsaws are defined by choppy price swings through common support or resistance levels. Natural tug and pull generates most whipsaws, but hidden hands also manipulate price by hitting common stop levels in order to generate volume.

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Whatever the source, whipsaws are responsible for many of the losses in a swing trader's portfolio. This choppy action emerges when breakouts or breakdowns don't generate efficient reaction phases. This annoying failure may or may not trigger a major reversal.

soniailyas
2015-02-16, 08:20 AM
he forex trader apny experience and skill ke mutabiq future trading ka idea lagata ha , munasib ye ha ke achi support and resistence hamesha forex trader ko true breakout and false breakout k samajny mi bari he help kerta ha.