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Jazpa
2011-09-05, 12:08 PM
I always get confused with setting the perfect stop loss. I know how important is to set SL when we trade but I am always in dilemma about how to calculate SL. Can anyone help me out with this issue?
BojanHajdinjak
2011-09-05, 12:55 PM
Theoreticly, SL have to be there where is reversal.
So if you are bullish and market start to going agains you, stop is there where you can see
top confirmation.
gosians
2011-09-05, 02:38 PM
Long term trading main SL ka tu idea nhi hy but agr ap short term trading krty hen tu support and resistance k hisab sy SL apply krna perfect hy, kiun k hm janty hen k jb price support level ko break krti hy tu wo resistance bn jati hy aur jb resistance ko break krti hy tu wo support bn jati hy ici lye ye levels apko help krty hen SL apply krny main.
waheedpcc
2011-09-05, 04:51 PM
I always get confused with setting the perfect stop loss. I know how important is to set SL when we trade but I am always in dilemma about how to calculate SL. Can anyone help me out with this issue?
it`s reverse pattern jeb ap buying ker rehe hote apko stop downward per lagana hota ha or jeb sell ker rehe hon to apko upward lagaa hota ha.
Calculaion kleye jitne pips loss kerna chah rehe hoon use currenct price mein add ker k decimal point k bad put ker dein
ishvara
2011-09-05, 08:25 PM
You use the profit and loss ratio to calculate how many pips that you are going to set as your SL and even TP. In every case, it is wise that if you are using a target of 100pips, then you will also use a SL of 50pips. I hope you are cleared.
mayengbam
2011-09-24, 03:26 PM
there is no such thing as perfect stop loss. a trader sets it as per his analysis and there is no specific tool which can give a perfect sl target.
generally the reasons around s&r are good resons to set the sl target. and many trader use this method
Ronak
2011-09-24, 04:43 PM
SL is importance thing in forex ..but its should be set at right point...well for perfect stopp loss order ,,i use PIVOT point because it has more accuracy and easy to use ....
trijay
2011-09-24, 05:15 PM
best way to determine stop loss or take profits is using previous day pivots point .Take 10-20 above or below pivots points and you can easily make profits once it broke.
pivot point serves to support resistance, I combine with candle patterns, to determine the entry point and exit point, I'm just a simple analysis
nsawork
2011-09-24, 08:30 PM
pivot point serves to support resistance, I combine with candle patterns, to determine the entry point and exit point, I'm just a simple analysis
I am still learning the candle sticks and it will take some time but i am sure that it gives good signals and far more better than the line charts.
As far as stop loss is concerned we have to use it in all the trades as we do not want to be in any bad trade that will take away the profits from the good ones.
waheedpcc
2011-09-24, 09:39 PM
I am still learning the candle sticks and it will take some time but i am sure that it gives good signals and far more better than the line charts.
As far as stop loss is concerned we have to use it in all the trades as we do not want to be in any bad trade that will take away the profits from the good ones.
this is an good signal that you are doing this formation because the power candlestick charts pattern is really powerful and unique to understand the special thing is that when you see signal in doji formation you able to make some money
zoomfire
2011-09-24, 11:08 PM
I am still learning the candle sticks and it will take some time but i am sure that it gives good signals and far more better than the line charts.
As far as stop loss is concerned we have to use it in all the trades as we do not want to be in any bad trade that will take away the profits from the good ones.
yes you are right.candlesticks are better way of representing price movements.And determining perfect stop loss order i find its of less use as we have to be more perfect in determining TP order.SL order should also be given importance but only after TP.
unknownxxx
2011-09-25, 12:57 AM
I always get confused with setting the perfect stop loss. I know how important is to set SL when we trade but I am always in dilemma about how to calculate SL. Can anyone help me out with this issue?
It depends of the type of trader. if you are a scalper then it is better to use bigger sl than tp. but if you are a swing trader or day trader, then it is better to use bigger tp than sl. because the price movements are higher so it can move back again not like in scalping, one short move in sl then goes back to tp then you lose.
I always get confused with setting the perfect stop loss. I know how important is to set SL when we trade but I am always in dilemma about how to calculate SL. Can anyone help me out with this issue?
The stop loss should set at the point, if the market do not goes the way we predict, and move against our position, when the market reach our stop loss, we are sure that the market has changed and we should exit.
patil
2011-10-11, 10:57 PM
Theoreticly, SL वहाँ जहाँ उलट है.
तो अगर आप तेजी और आप के खिलाफ जा रहे बाजार शुरू कर रहे हैं, बंद करो वहाँ जहाँ आप देख सकते हैं
शीर्ष पुष्टि.
vineet
2011-10-14, 12:03 AM
pivot point serves to support resistance, I combine with candle patterns, to determine the entry point and exit point, I'm just a simple analysis
vicky
2011-10-17, 11:18 AM
this is an good signal that you are doing this formation because the power candlestick charts pattern is really powerful and unique to understand the special thing is that when you see signal in doji formation you able to make some money
I am fully agree with you but its really not easy task to understand candlestick chart pattern properly and its hard for newbie which need lots of education but if we able to understand it then no doubt its a great system .
popatji
2011-10-18, 07:53 PM
You use the profit and loss ratio to calculate how many pips that you are going to set as your SL and even TP. In every case, it is wise that if you are using a target of 100pips, then you will also use a SL of 50pips. I hope you are cleared.
aryan
2011-10-21, 01:20 PM
I am still learning the candle sticks and it will take some time but i am sure that it gives good signals and far more better than the line charts.
As far as stop loss is concerned we have to use it in all the trades as we do not want to be in any bad trade that will take away the profits from the good ones.
popatji
2011-10-24, 12:25 PM
SL which is too short to make a margin deplete faster ...
high TP also with the risk of losing pips from the turned price...
we should be able to properly analyze it ..
so that no wrong in the placement of sl and tp ..
speedy
2011-11-01, 12:06 AM
I think we should not put a stop loss that is very short. I usually put a stop loss just beyond the resistance or support line because I want to close my trades at loss only when a support or resistance line is broken.
anubhavsingh
2011-11-02, 09:02 AM
SL which is too short to make a margin deplete faster ...
high TP also with the risk of losing pips from the turned price...
we should be able to properly analyze it ..
so that no wrong in the placement of sl and tp ..
forex me tp aur sl ko analyse karna hi sab kuch hota hai
sl analyse karne ka sabse acha tarika hai ki market ke support aur resistence ko pakdo
fir ussi ke hisab se sl set kar do
newentry
2011-11-02, 09:29 AM
I think we should not put a stop loss that is very short. I usually put a stop loss just beyond the resistance or support line because I want to close my trades at loss only when a support or resistance line is broken.
yes of course and depends the condition,i used stop loss with range as long as a candlestick or i make ratio 2 : 1
but i am a scalper so now i seldom used it
shah.zoor
2011-11-02, 10:52 AM
it completely depends on you and the market movement.You should set the stop loss nad take profit according to your money management.Money management is very important factor in forex.
Money management should have to be the key to select stop loss in one's order. If you have less deposit so you cannot place big stop losses as they will bring margin call to your account. And also if you place it too tight it might get hit before going toward your take profit.
kanwaljit
2011-11-02, 01:49 PM
there is never a perfect stop loss order, it is best to keep it below a good support or above a good resistance, where you feel it might bounce off if it goes against your direction of trade, if it breaks this S/R then it was never a good trade
anubhavsingh
2011-11-02, 02:49 PM
Money management should have to be the key to select stop loss in one's order. If you have less deposit so you cannot place big stop losses as they will bring margin call to your account. And also if you place it too tight it might get hit before going toward your take profit.
har trading platform me money management bahut zaruri hota hai
bina money management ke aap kabhi bhi sucess nahi pa sakte
forex me bhi money magamenet karte hue tp aur sl set karna hota hai
there is never a perfect stop loss order, it is best to keep it below a good support or above a good resistance, where you feel it might bounce off if it goes against your direction of trade, if it breaks this S/R then it was never a good trade
i agree with your view...perfect stop loss we can not determine..
its batter we just put stop loss some pips above to resistance and below to support ....because there are some factor that move the market back after touching these level...if these levles break price move more to opposte direction.
anubhavsingh
2011-11-03, 09:47 AM
i agree with your view...perfect stop loss we can not determine..
its batter we just put stop loss some pips above to resistance and below to support ....because there are some factor that move the market back after touching these level...if these levles break price move more to opposte direction.
me aapki baat se sehmat nahi hon bhai
perfect stop los determine kiya ja sakta hai
iske liye bahut analysis ki zarurat padti hai jiske baad aap market ka exact support aur resistance predict karte hue stop loss set kar sakte ho
me aapki baat se sehmat nahi hon bhai
perfect stop los determine kiya ja sakta hai
iske liye bahut analysis ki zarurat padti hai jiske baad aap market ka exact support aur resistance predict karte hue stop loss set kar sakte ho
for determine perfect stop loss you alsways be active in market or with market enviroment...
for seting proper stop loss you should also go for news... if we see suddenly good news then price move more then 100 pips... after 100pips movement market try to stable it self...in this case our Sl is more then 100pips.
realfun07
2011-11-03, 03:07 PM
for determine perfect stop loss you alsways be active in market or with market enviroment...
for seting proper stop loss you should also go for news... if we see suddenly good news then price move more then 100 pips... after 100pips movement market try to stable it self...in this case our Sl is more then 100pips.
You need to determine the stop loss based on your account , your profit u want to make ,equity available , leverage used and the entry and exit levels based on your analysis and study.
You need to determine the stop loss based on your account , your profit u want to make ,equity available , leverage used and the entry and exit levels based on your analysis and study.
in my trading style i use risk and reward rati 2:1...while 1:1 is best ratio of risk & reward...but in risk i add 1 % more for news..
many time i see due to news the sl hit but after some time of news we see again retracement.
Mr. Tukul
2011-11-03, 06:38 PM
in my trading style i use risk and reward rati 2:1...while 1:1 is best ratio of risk & reward...but in risk i add 1 % more for news..
many time i see due to news the sl hit but after some time of news we see again retracement.
in my opinion, risk and reward ratio is 2:1 which is still reasonable ...
but at the news release I dare not say how the comparison is appropriate, because at that time the price hard to guess ...
Ronak
2011-11-03, 06:56 PM
i trade using pivot point so i put stop loss on the basis of next resistence or a support level ...and i also determine the trend....for choosing how many pips is safe to put into stop loss
personally if any one ask me that did you like to use stop losses in my trade to mera jawab hota na because stop losses ager hit ho jae that`s does not mean that i was safe it`s mean i still face loss so main hedge kerna better sumjhta hoon rather then this one
hedging is also good way to constant equity and avoide margin call..
but in my view in heding we can enter easily but we cannot say about exit...if you miss good point one of them the result is less profit or may be loss.
personally if any one ask me that did you like to use stop losses in my trade to mera jawab hota na because stop losses ager hit ho jae that`s does not mean that i was safe it`s mean i still face loss so main hedge kerna better sumjhta hoon rather then this one
Long term trading main SL ka tu idea nhi hy but agr ap short term trading krty hen tu support and resistance k hisab sy SL apply krna perfect hy, kiun k hm janty hen k jb price support level ko break krti hy tu wo resistance bn jati hy aur jb resistance ko break krti hy tu wo support bn jati hy ici lye ye levels apko help krty hen SL apply krny main.
Long term trading main SL ka tu idea nhi hy but agr ap short term trading krty hen tu support and resistance k hisab sy SL apply krna perfect hy, kiun k hm janty hen k jb price support level ko break krti hy tu wo resistance bn jati hy aur jb resistance ko break krti hy tu wo support bn jati hy ici lye ye levels apko help krty hen SL apply krny main.
krishan
2011-11-06, 07:59 PM
Theoreticly, SL वहाँ जहाँ उलट है.
तो अगर आप तेजी और आप के खिलाफ जा रहे बाजार शुरू कर रहे हैं, बंद करो वहाँ जहाँ आप देख सकते हैं
शीर्ष पुष्टि.
zoomfire
2011-11-11, 01:38 PM
yes of course and depends the condition,i used stop loss with range as long as a candlestick or i make ratio 2 : 1
but i am a scalper so now i seldom used it
yes,2:1 ratio is the most common one which traders use.sometimes if we are confident we can use 3:1 .
i use SL very rarely and i will use only if i will not be able to watch the trade.
eddis
2011-11-11, 07:01 PM
stop los is each factor to forex in forex market we need make a good money managemnet
like we can loss not more than 5% from balance
so we can set stop loss with balance/lot is not more than 5% to set sl with pips
realfun07
2011-11-14, 09:36 PM
yes of course and depends the condition,i used stop loss with range as long as a candlestick or i make ratio 2 : 1
but i am a scalper so now i seldom used it
While you are doing scalping it is very difficult to keep up the ratio of 2:1 for your trades but otherwise it is a good ratio to determine your stop loss.Since scalping needs trades to be executed soon by trading with 1 minute chart.
sanjeev
2011-11-16, 06:27 PM
यह पूरी तरह आप पर निर्भर करता है और बाजार movement.You सेट चाहिए बंद नुकसान nad अपने पैसे management.Money प्रबंधन के अनुसार लाभ लेने के लिए विदेशी मुद्रा में बहुत महत्वपूर्ण कारक है.
weekager
2011-11-16, 11:44 PM
I always get confused with setting the perfect stop loss. I know how important is to set SL when we trade but I am always in dilemma about how to calculate SL. Can anyone help me out with this issue?
wese main to manual trading he karta hnn lekin phr bhi thurra bahot knwledge ha es k barey main es ka sirf or sirf ye hal ha k app chart ko kafi chak karain or manual analysis bhi karain tab ja k order place karain
sanjeev
2011-11-17, 01:28 PM
फिर मैं तुम्हारे साथ सहमत बिंदु धुरी froex में प्रवेश और निकास बिंदु के लिए लागू करने के लिए बहुत अच्छा विचार है. धुरी अंक का उपयोग करके आप अपने बंद नुकसान सेट और लाभ ले सकते हैं
chirayu
2011-11-19, 12:04 AM
best way to determine stop loss or take profits is using previous day pivots point .Take 10-20 above or below pivots points and you can easily make profits once it broke.
Long term trading main SL ka tu idea nhi hy but agr ap short term trading krty hen tu support and resistance k hisab sy SL apply krna perfect hy, kiun k hm janty hen k jb price support level ko break krti hy tu wo resistance bn jati hy aur jb resistance ko break krti hy tu wo support bn jati hy ici lye ye levels apko help krty hen SL apply krny main.
i am not agree with you that in long term trading stop loss dont have importance. In my view we should use stop in all trading.
long term trader use long time frame chart like weekly or monthly.
they also put their stop loss according to time frames support and resistance.
bhanu
2011-11-19, 05:05 PM
this is an good signal that you are doing this formation because the power candlestick charts pattern is really powerful and unique to understand the special thing is that when you see signal in doji formation you able to make some money
nikhil
2011-11-19, 07:11 PM
it`s reverse pattern jeb ap buying ker rehe hote apko stop downward per lagana hota ha or jeb sell ker rehe hon to apko upward lagaa hota ha.
Calculaion kleye jitne pips loss kerna chah rehe hoon use currenct price mein add ker k decimal point k bad put ker dein
zoomfire
2011-11-19, 10:19 PM
i am not agree with you that in long term trading stop loss dont have importance. In my view we should use stop in all trading.
long term trader use long time frame chart like weekly or monthly.
they also put their stop loss according to time frames support and resistance.
well i guess we should use stop loss in long term trading as its more important because the trade will be open for more long time and we may monitor once in 3days or a week or sometimes once in a month.
tibasingh
2011-11-24, 10:01 AM
I always get confused with setting the perfect stop loss. I know how important is to set SL when we trade but I am always in dilemma about how to calculate SL. Can anyone help me out with this issue?
ye app ko koi bhi nahi bata sakta par appchart ko achi tara analize kar k he kafi acha andaza laga saktey ho bahi koi indecaters se bhi kafi had tak app ko help mil sakti ha par jo bhi trade open karna to lazmi apni analyizing power lazmi use karna
yogesh
2011-11-25, 01:23 AM
People use different methods, some look on chart and then find out the support and resistance level, some rely on other expert analysts tips and some on indicators, i watch market movements some time and try notice recent support and resistances.
hiren
2011-11-26, 01:08 AM
You need to determine the stop loss based on your account , your profit u want to make ,equity available , leverage used and the entry and exit levels based on your analysis and study.
nikhil
2011-11-27, 03:55 PM
The stop loss should set at the point, if the market do not goes the way we predict, and move against our position, when the market reach our stop loss, we are sure that the market has changed and we should exit.
kamla
2011-11-27, 07:28 PM
I am fully agree with you but its really not easy task to understand candlestick chart pattern properly and its hard for newbie which need lots of education but if we able to understand it then no doubt its a great system .
Jazpa
2011-11-27, 08:27 PM
it`s reverse pattern jeb ap buying ker rehe hote apko stop downward per lagana hota ha or jeb sell ker rehe hon to apko upward lagaa hota ha.
Calculaion kleye jitne pips loss kerna chah rehe hoon use currenct price mein add ker k decimal point k bad put ker dein
Okay aap ki answer ke liye me sukriyada karna chahata hu. Mein ye jaan gaya hu ki hame stop loss hamare position ke reversal pattern pe lagana hein. Magar mein abhi confused hu ki hame kitne pips ki stop loss lagana chahiye. Filhal ta mein 20 pips ki stop loss ke sath trade karta hu. Kya ye thik hein waheedpcc?
I am fully agree with you but its really not easy task to understand candlestick chart pattern properly and its hard for newbie which need lots of education but if we able to understand it then no doubt its a great system .
at the starting time understanding candlestick pattern is little bit hard but if we try continue then we can become master in candlestick pattern.
we can also set stop loss base on candlestick pattern...ex- high and low of the particular candle. but this is good if we are trading on the basic of candlestick pattern other wise its not good idea.
stop loss is decide by the trading system..once tradings system can not apply on other strading system.
edison
2011-12-02, 01:07 AM
i put stop loss depends upon how much risk or lot i can taken if i taken high risk i use close stop loss putting stop loss is compulsory to stop huge loss
lovefx
2011-12-02, 01:30 AM
It varies on people to people, strategy to strategy and technique. usually we see sl and tp are set based on support, resistant and pivot also candle stick analysis can be a option to set a perfect sl.
anitagala124
2011-12-11, 03:51 PM
The stop loss should set at the point, if the market do not goes the way we predict, and move against our position, when the market reach our stop loss, we are sure that the market has changed and we should exit.
rakesh
2011-12-13, 12:44 PM
yes you are right.candlesticks are better way of representing price movements.And determining perfect stop loss order i find its of less use as we have to be more perfect in determining TP order.SL order should also be given importance but only after TP.
vikas
2011-12-14, 05:17 PM
I am fully agree with you but its really not easy task to understand candlestick chart pattern properly and its hard for newbie which need lots of education but if we able to understand it then no doubt its a great system .
hetal
2011-12-19, 01:43 PM
me aapki baat se sehmat nahi hon bhai
perfect stop los determine kiya ja sakta hai
iske liye bahut analysis ki zarurat padti hai jiske baad aap market ka exact support aur resistance predict karte hue stop loss set kar sakte ho
iiuu86
2011-12-19, 06:00 PM
Find a perfect stop loss is important, stop loss is good if we use it with good technique or we will make us a great loss . good point is essential for all treders for minimizing the level of our risk .
aniket
2011-12-21, 04:23 PM
ye app ko koi bhi nahi bata sakta par appchart ko achi tara analize kar k he kafi acha andaza laga saktey ho bahi koi indecaters se bhi kafi had tak app ko help mil sakti ha par jo bhi trade open karna to lazmi apni analyizing power lazmi use karna
vikas
2011-12-21, 06:59 PM
wese main to manual trading he karta hnn lekin phr bhi thurra bahot knwledge ha es k barey main es ka sirf or sirf ye hal ha k app chart ko kafi chak karain or manual analysis bhi karain tab ja k order place karain
ketan
2011-12-21, 07:39 PM
I am still learning the candle sticks and it will take some time but i am sure that it gives good signals and far more better than the line charts.
newentry
2011-12-21, 08:22 PM
I am still learning the candle sticks and it will take some time but i am sure that it gives good signals and far more better than the line charts.
well, candlestick is like easy to understand, but it is hard to do, we read an example and it is look like so easy but when we go in the market...confused has been waiting for us
jadhav
2011-12-25, 06:25 PM
yes of course and depends the condition,i used stop loss with range as long as a candlestick or i make ratio 2 : 1
but i am a scalper so now i seldom used it
hardworks
2011-12-25, 06:31 PM
How to determine the perfect stop loss order?
I always get confused with setting the perfect stop loss. I know how important is to set SL when we trade but I am always in dilemma about how to calculate SL. Can anyone help me out with this issue?
I think, you may concentrate to find the correct entry point with small take profit. If you want to analyze the stop loss, it takes 2 works. So, concentrate to find the right entry point. If you still need to find stop loss, then analyze with zigzag indicator. This shows support and resistance.
nikam
2011-12-26, 01:19 PM
Okay aap ki answer ke liye me sukriyada karna chahata hu. Mein ye jaan gaya hu ki hame stop loss hamare position ke reversal pattern pe lagana hein. Magar mein abhi confused hu ki hame kitne pips ki stop loss lagana chahiye. Filhal ta mein 20 pips ki stop loss ke sath trade karta hu. Kya ye thik hein waheedpcc?
jadhav
2011-12-26, 07:15 PM
It depends of the type of trader. if you are a scalper then it is better to use bigger sl than tp. but if you are a swing trader or day trader, then it is better to use bigger tp than sl. because the price movements are higher so it can move back again not like in scalping, one short move in sl then goes back to tp then you lose.
bestlooser
2011-12-26, 07:53 PM
I think it depends for differnet trades so why you just have to set stop less to a fix value see the trend and fix it and anyway when you are not sure about the market then exit so set stop loss accordingly and this is very importnat decision to make because do not exit early and some time people have to regret too.
shinde
2011-12-29, 12:31 PM
i trade using pivot point so i put stop loss on the basis of next resistence or a support level ...and i also determine the trend....for choosing how many pips is safe to put into stop loss
shinde
2011-12-29, 01:19 PM
SL is importance thing in forex ..but its should be set at right point...well for perfect stopp loss order ,,i use PIVOT point because it has more accuracy and easy to use ....
shinde
2011-12-30, 10:52 PM
yes you are right.candlesticks are better way of representing price movements.And determining perfect stop loss order i find its of less use as we have to be more perfect in determining TP order.SL order should also be given importance but only after TP.
aadrika
2011-12-31, 06:10 PM
The perfect stop loss order should not be a ratio. It can only be determined over time and through constant tweaking based on your strategy. For instance if you use a stop loss order of 50 pips and you realise that it is contantly been triggered by the market before price resumes it previous trend, then you should consider increasing the stop loss to 70 pips. If 70 pips reduces the amount of losses you make, then stick with it, otherwise you can try something else.
muhammadatif
2012-01-02, 12:07 AM
I set stop loss in my trades up to 2% total of my capital.
Warrior
2012-01-02, 12:37 AM
Perfect stop loss depends on the kind of strategy you are using. I have different stop losses for different strategies. They are like 30 pips for scalping strategy, 70 pips for intraday trading strategy and 150 or so pips for long term trading in which I have to hold position for a few days.
This is not fixed level of stop loss and I manipulate it each time based on my technical studies.
anubhavsingh
2012-01-02, 01:56 AM
I set stop loss in my trades up to 2% total of my capital.
ye bahut hi bekar strategy hai forex me..agar aap ko age chalke bada trader banna hai to aapko stop loss set karne ke liye thik strategy banai padegi
me hamesha stop loss ko support aur resistence dekh ke hi lagata hion..aapko bhi hamesha aisa hi karna chahaiey aur yahi sabse acha tarika hai forex me stop lsos lagaen ka..zadatar har bada trader issi hisab se stop lsos set karta hai
forexprophet
2012-01-02, 06:57 PM
Stop loss can be varied for different positions you are taking. Before setting your stop loss blindly to some predetermined pips or some % from your capital, check if that area has any resistance or support and there is a possibility of price stalling in that area before continuing its previous trend direction.
forexman
2012-01-02, 08:40 PM
setting stoploss in trading is really important and those who can manage it perfectly can really get a chance of reducing more losses and i really very poor in maintaining the stoploss for my account and i always getting margincall
atif58
2012-01-02, 08:58 PM
It depends on the strategy which you are using. Normally i trade using candlesticks and support & resistance. To place stop loss i use support and resistance points. On the diffirnce of 5 to 10 pips from support & resistance points i place my SL.
anubhavsingh
2012-01-02, 11:06 PM
setting stoploss in trading is really important and those who can manage it perfectly can really get a chance of reducing more losses and i really very poor in maintaining the stoploss for my account and i always getting margincall
maien kayi baar ye baat kahi hai ki jo bhi trader apne trade me stop loss ki thik se analyse karke nahi lagata unke liye forex bahut hi risky rehta haikyunki maine bahut se aise cases dekhe hai jisme traders aise hote hai jo stop loss na lagaen ki wajah se margin call tak aa jate hai...apne accpount ko margin call se bacahne ke liye thik se money management karte hue stop loss lagana chahaiye
forexprophet
2012-01-02, 11:19 PM
It depends on the strategy which you are using. Normally i trade using candlesticks and support & resistance. To place stop loss i use support and resistance points. On the diffirnce of 5 to 10 pips from support & resistance points i place my SL.
Using support and resistance areas for placing stop loss is a very good trading strategy. Traders should keep in mind that support and resistances are not a single line or the exact price where the market stalls, it is a zone or area, so the stop loss set should be 8-12 pips from the support/resistance points.
Warrior
2012-01-02, 11:31 PM
Stop loss can be varied for different positions you are taking. Before setting your stop loss blindly to some predetermined pips or some % from your capital, check if that area has any resistance or support and there is a possibility of price stalling in that area before continuing its previous trend direction.
There are 2 ways which traders use to set stop losses. These are setting a fixed stop loss based on money management and limiting the risk. This is fixed like in any trade, it will be fixed 50 pips stop loss but I don't think that this method is efficient.
I prefer setting stop loss by the second way in which the stop loss is different for different trades based on support and resistance areas near the current price. If there is any major support, my stop loss will be a bit below it for a long trade.
Mehak
2012-01-06, 12:29 PM
stop loss ko always support and resistanse level per hi rakhna chahiya in short term I think so...but better guide to experts hi ker saktay hain k at which level..and experience also tell us
ali1011
2012-01-13, 07:45 AM
Meray kehayl sy stoop loss ka faisala apka apna hota hy magar trend k hsiab sy apko aik idea lgana parta hy k ap ko khan profit and loss limit set karni hy me to 20 pips profit limit and loss limit 25 pips down set karta hun .
twinkling star
2012-01-13, 11:18 AM
stop loss is very very informative as yeh ap ko zyada loss honay say bacha leta hai. so always add sl in selling time and select it above your price level in decimal places. and in buying situation you always choose it below the price and subtract stop loss from current price and also put it in decimal place.
forexman
2012-01-13, 11:20 AM
i also have no much information on it but i think it depends on the risk you want to take and i only use stoploss when i am in profit to lock the profit and if price still increses i can earn more but it totally depends on you on how to use it
I am still learning the candle sticks and it will take some time but i am sure that it gives good signals and far more better than the line charts.
As far as stop loss is concerned we have to use it in all the trades as we do not want to be in any bad trade that will take away the profits from the good ones.
anubhavsingh
2012-01-19, 05:28 PM
I am still learning the candle sticks and it will take some time but i am sure that it gives good signals and far more better than the line charts.
As far as stop loss is concerned we have to use it in all the trades as we do not want to be in any bad trade that will take away the profits from the good ones.
candlestick charts ke zariey stop loss ko samjhna kafi aasan ho jata hai kyunki inse apko support aur resistance smajhne me bahut aasani ho jayegi aur inhi ke hisab se tradres apna stop loss aur take profit ki value ho set karte hai..jo bhi trader candlestiock charts ko study karna jaan ta hai uske liye trading me kafoi fayda hota hai
sangam
2012-01-19, 09:29 PM
candlestick charts ke zariey stop loss ko samjhna kafi aasan ho jata hai kyunki inse apko support aur resistance smajhne me bahut aasani ho jayegi aur inhi ke hisab se tradres apna stop loss aur take profit ki value ho set karte hai..jo bhi trader candlestiock charts ko study karna jaan ta hai uske liye trading me kafoi fayda hota hai
Candle sticks are a great tool for learning the Forex trades as they give us the good information about the markets and this means that we will be able to make some handsome amount of profits using them. The only thing we need to remember is that sometimes their are fake signals which we need to avoid.
fxquest
2012-01-19, 10:50 PM
I think perfect stop loss is that where we dont loose much and also which is difficult to be hit. So usually wise traders set it below nearest resistance so that they get more chance to book profit then to hit stop loss.
hindlekar
2012-01-22, 02:58 PM
trader who scalp dont need to set the stop loss and take profit because a scalper has to monitor the trade every time he trade but for long term trading stop loss and take profit is very essential to set
kastur
2012-01-22, 04:09 PM
ya i agree with you pivot point is very good idea to apply in froex for entry and exit point. by using pivot points you can set your stop loss and take profit
manoj
2012-01-22, 05:54 PM
That is a really very good money management option you have here. Its nice to see that people are here that are wise and only risk very little of their account size so that they can survive even if market crashes.
indianforex
2012-01-23, 07:00 PM
Theoreticly, SL have to be there where is reversal.
So if you are bullish and market start to going agains you, stop is there where you can see
top confirmation.
hello brother i am a newbie.i rarely use the stop loss method because i dont know how to put the stop loss point in the correct position.some people says that putting stop loss is not a matter and the point where we put the stop loss is very important for a profitable trade.shall you please tell me how to put the stop loss in the correct position?
tajdarbet
2012-01-23, 07:08 PM
I always get confused with setting the perfect stop loss. I know how important is to set SL when we trade but I am always in dilemma about how to calculate SL. Can anyone help me out with this issue?
main to g manual trading karta houn esi liye stop loss use nahi karta houn or jo scalpers hane un ko chiye k woh stop loss zaror use karain or stop loss ko sahi place karna k liye app ko market ka achi taran analyze karna parre ga es taran app sahi stop loss place kar saktey hane
borle
2012-01-24, 10:27 PM
i trade using pivot point so i put stop loss on the basis of next resistence or a support level ...and i also determine the trend....for choosing how many **** is safe to put into stop loss
issamlitim
2012-01-24, 11:08 PM
i prefer to use the 25 stop loss and the 50 or more for take profit and always keep it 1 by 2 this will make you gain the profit more than you loss but it will give you less chance to win.
borle
2012-01-24, 11:17 PM
SL is importance thing in forex ..but its should be set at right point...well for perfect stopp loss order ,,i use PIVOT point because it has more accuracy and easy to use ....
mohit
2012-01-24, 11:43 PM
i think it depend on the traders itself where to use the stop loss in your trading..
because he works according to the methods and startegies he set for that trading and it also depend on the market position
zaloo
2012-01-25, 10:25 AM
this thing depends on the market position in your trade some times you enter your trade without and need for using stop loss , and some times you may need to use it depending on the market position this day , so we can't determine it before follow our chart and world news .
kampung
2012-01-27, 06:27 PM
Good signals will give you a better idea about the current market trend and give you a direction for your trades but not signal about what is perfect stop loss for your trades. That you need to decide yourself based on your trades and profit targets as well.
and I think to get a good signal in our trade requires the ability to be patient in our trade because if we have the attitude of a hurry then we have an error in the analysis of our trade and it is fatal
anubhavsingh
2012-01-31, 12:43 AM
hello traders, mein stop loss previous bar ko dekh ker rekhta hun. ager m15 candlestick per trade keroon to m15 ki previous bar ka size mera sl ho ga same rule for higher time frames like h4,daily,weekly and monthly
stop loss ko analyse karke set karna bahut zaruri step hota hai forex trading
traders kayi tarah se stop los values calculate karte hai jabki me hamesha support aur resistance ke hisba se hi stop loss set karta hon aur mujhe kafi fayda bhi hota hai isse
stimor44
2012-01-31, 09:07 AM
The factor of risk management is undoubtly the most important thing in the forex world, i think that it should be dealt with properly.
I set a stop loss according to the specific areas such as in areas of SD, and SR as well as using a stop loss with good money management..studied first in the demo account to place SL wise
the perfect stop loss is the the max retreat of the trend but it is so hard to definde it many time i enter the deal at the max retreat that i think but the price will retreat more and some time i miss the point .
ye app ko koi bhi nahi bata sakta par appchart ko achi tara analize kar k he kafi acha andaza laga saktey ho bahi koi indecaters se bhi kafi had tak app ko help mil sakti ha par jo bhi trade open karna to lazmi apni analyizing power lazmi use karna
arihant
2012-02-05, 05:43 PM
i think it depend on the traders itself where to use the stop loss in your trading..
because he works according to the methods and startegies he set for that trading and it also depend on the market position
pooja
2012-02-06, 02:27 PM
yes of course and depends the condition,i used stop loss with range as long as a candlestick or i make ratio 2 : 1
but i am a scalper so now i seldom used it
Meray kehayl sy stoop loss ka faisala apka apna hota hy magar trend k hsiab sy apko aik idea lgana parta hy k ap ko khan profit and loss limit set karni hy me to 20 pips profit limit and loss limit 25 pips down set karta hun .
samuelkanu
2012-02-06, 04:15 PM
Placement of stop loss is determined by the strategy you are using and sometimes by reward to risk factor.Generally it is placed at possible reversal points where the market might turn around to go in opposite direction.So stop loss has to do with your strategy and your general risk to reward ratio that will be calculated by you
nilesh
2012-02-06, 06:36 PM
It depends on the strategy which you are using. Normally i trade using candlesticks and support & resistance. To place stop loss i use support and resistance points. On the diffirnce of 5 to 10 pips from support & resistance points i place my SL.
pooja
2012-02-08, 12:35 PM
You need to determine the stop loss levels on the basis of the risk you want to take and also your profit and risk ratio which you prefer to trade in .You need to keep all these factors in mind.
arihant
2012-02-11, 04:00 PM
yes you are right.candlesticks are better way of representing price movements.And determining perfect stop loss order i find its of less use as we have to be more perfect in determining TP order.SL order should also be given importance but only after TP.
shinde
2012-02-11, 04:02 PM
yes,2:1 ratio is the most common one which traders use.sometimes if we are confident we can use 3:1 .
i use SL very rarely and i will use only if i will not be able to watch the trade.
shinde
2012-02-11, 04:22 PM
well i guess we should use stop loss in long term trading as its more important because the trade will be open for more long time and we may monitor once in 3days or a week or sometimes once in a month.
rajabd
2012-02-11, 05:20 PM
If I trade in a day, so I should to find out how many pips up and down. I should set stop loss more pips than that days up or down. Any suggestion please add forum.
twinkling star
2012-02-11, 05:30 PM
it cannot be explain briefly as how to set sl, as no method is there which determine the sl. mostly people use support and resistance levels for setting the sl, but it needs more experience and time to understand, in start you could use 10 pips for take profit and 20 pips for sl.
ermaniso2011
2012-02-13, 10:34 AM
l have find out that every session starts with a trend it can be short or long but you can observe it easily.when the asian markets open in most case the trend start will continue until london session and london session will make a new trend until newyork.it can be different trends but important is trend is not changing every minute so when a move start just simply join.but you have to be there ad watch the market always during these times.
I do not know why some of you still want to find something call "perfect". It is said that "nothing is perfect" so you do not try to find any thing that is perfect cause it change everyday, everytimes and everycase. Just see in the chart, hear to the news and guess how the market would move to give the correct stop loss point.
I do not know why some of you still want to find something call "perfect". It is said that "nothing is perfect" so you do not try to find any thing that is perfect cause it change everyday, everytimes and everycase. Just see in the chart, hear to the news and guess how the market would move to give the correct stop loss point.
Yes you are right we can not tell about stop loss when news effect but it can be useful when you are trading when market is trading in normal situation and it is better to take some pips profit which are already fixed.
forexbroker123
2012-02-13, 12:15 PM
I always get confused with setting the perfect stop loss. I know how important is to set SL when we trade but I am always in dilemma about how to calculate SL. Can anyone help me out with this issue?
jani main to manual trade he karta houn or main ne kabhi bhi stop loss order use nahi kiya ha mere khiyal main stop loss un ko use karna chiye jo big lot k sath kaam account balance se trade karte hane kioun k un ko ziyada khatra hota ha money lose hone ka main to gi kaam lot size k sath he trade karta houn chieye account main jitna bhi money ho
How to determine the perfect stop loss order?
I always get confused with setting the perfect stop loss. I know how important is to set SL when we trade but I am always in dilemma about how to calculate SL. Can anyone help me out with this issue?
before think about stop loss we have to think about analysis first your entry point must be the last retreat point that you predict it to sell or to buy you have to make stop loss less as much as you can.
kampung
2012-02-13, 04:11 PM
before think about stop loss we have to think about analysis first your entry point must be the last retreat point that you predict it to sell or to buy you have to make stop loss less as much as you can.
when we use a stop loss in our trade, we must prepare ourselves in the loss and I think not all the traders want their trade with stop loss trade touched and I think it would be good to trade with a stop loss but hope to have a safe trade
tomkris
2012-02-13, 05:10 PM
I always get confused with setting the perfect stop loss. I know how important is to set SL when we trade but I am always in dilemma about how to calculate SL. Can anyone help me out with this issue?
The first time I have never traded forex using a stop loss, because I still expect prices to turn around again. but often the price does not turn around and finally I get a margin call accounts. after much experience, then I use a stop loss.
anubhavsingh
2012-02-13, 05:45 PM
The first time I have never traded forex using a stop loss, because I still expect prices to turn around again. but often the price does not turn around and finally I get a margin call accounts. after much experience, then I use a stop loss.
forex me margin call lagne ka sabse bada reason yahi hai ki traders apne account me kabhi bhi stop loss ka use nahi karte jis wajah se unka loss bahut zada hota chala jata hai aur nhe margin call lag jati hai..isliye har chota bada trader apne account me stop loss ka use zarur karta hai taki unka loss loimioted rahe
twinkling star
2012-02-13, 06:04 PM
when we use a stop loss in our trade, we must prepare ourselves in the loss and I think not all the traders want their trade with stop loss trade touched and I think it would be good to trade with a stop loss but hope to have a safe trade
yeah you are right as stop loss is important to stay keep in trade, when ever you open a trade then you should be prepare for it that it might go to loss as nothing could say anything about market any thing could be happen.so stop loss should be set and that is based on yours money management.
gosians
2012-02-13, 06:16 PM
If we are taking a buy order in the market then first we have to decide about the take profit how much we want to take. The take profit value should be 10 points more than the buying price. And the stop loss will be 40 points less than the buying price.
I don't think so that its the good way to apply SL and TP, agar hmara tp 10 pips py aur sl 40 pips py ho ga tu ak position main stop loss hit karny k bad hmari 4 positions tp hit kren tb loss pora ho ga aur ic main boht time wast ho jaye ga. Our SL and TP should be according to logical levels like support and resistance.
I think we should put a stop loss closer than take profit. means that if we put take profit on positions 100 pips then we should put a stop loss at 50 pips position, my judgment is that if our prediction is 50:50 ekurasi then we will continue to profit at the final result....
miracle
2012-02-18, 09:55 PM
actually it really depends on our characteristic and trading strategy that we are using. normally what i do is stop loss will be 3 times bigger than my take profit. and also need to consider the volatility of pair that we are choose to trade.
lgarhboularbah
2012-02-19, 03:26 AM
from my experiment in the forex market i see that we should always put the stop loss less than the take profit this can make us recover the money and make some profit in case of lose and profit and to minimize the percentage of the win and the lost i use 50pt for the take profit and 30pt for the stop loss
mind4sale
2012-02-19, 09:52 AM
I always get confused with setting the perfect stop loss. I know how important is to set SL when we trade but I am always in dilemma about how to calculate SL. Can anyone help me out with this issue?
i think every trader have this problem..i m also have that kind of problem..many trader use support and resistance level to place stop loss you can use this or you can place stop loss by your own risk management
MasterShinbei
2012-02-19, 04:07 PM
You better see the support level and keep the stop loss near that ,when you see that the trading call is moving higher and attains the next level,you can change that .
Stop loss also depends upon the individual plan and strategies that how much pips you can attain and afford to lose.
Stop loss is better set according the nearest support and resistance. Don't use excact value as 10, 20, 30, etc, but use support and resistance level to set your STOP LOSS and take profit. It is better, because price will stop there
niteshforex
2012-02-20, 02:59 PM
That is a really very good money management option you have here. Its nice to see that people are here that are wise and only risk very little of their account size so that they can survive even if market crashes.
Thakur
2012-02-20, 04:30 PM
There is no perfect stop loss order. Even with stop loss order, trader still loss money, so just determine stop loss from your trading plan. If you use 50 PIP stop loss, try to make sure entry is good enough and if stop loss hit, then trading signal is bad.
vikas
2012-02-20, 05:11 PM
Theoreticly, SL वहाँ जहाँ उलट है.
तो अगर आप तेजी और आप के खिलाफ जा रहे बाजार शुरू कर रहे हैं, बंद करो वहाँ जहाँ आप देख सकते हैं
शीर्ष पुष्टि.
niteshforex
2012-02-24, 02:46 PM
I am still learning the candle sticks and it will take some time but i am sure that it gives good signals and far more better than the line charts.
As far as stop loss is concerned we have to use it in all the trades as we do not want to be in any bad trade that will take away the profits from the good ones.
Tarek
2012-02-24, 08:58 PM
there are several methods to calculate your loss, the best for me is the Trailing Stop, but you must pay attention to economic news, if the market is positive and also positive news then this is your opportunity to enjoy more than 150 pips.
maryosa
2012-02-25, 11:49 PM
I always get confused with setting the perfect stop loss. I know how important is to set SL when we trade but I am always in dilemma about how to calculate SL. Can anyone help me out with this issue?
To set stop loss is not problem in forex. Problem of stop loss is how to set stop loss that will not be hit every time. Well first advise is to not let stop loss be very tight. Second advise is not to let stop loss before support or resistance (depend on position of trade if long or short). Instead, let stop loss after resistance or after support so that if broken then know that trade will go against you bad.
fxquest
2012-02-26, 12:57 AM
no dear you are not right the stop loss should also be in long term trading because with out stop loss how can you protect your account from bad circumstances and with out stop loss you can not earn nice amount .
market ki volatility ke karan long term par hame stop loss bhi bada hi set karna padega varna stop loss trigger ho jayega aur hame bina karan nuksan uthana padega, long term ka uddeshya samay ke sath hone vale price appreciation ka labh uthana hai na ki stop loss me paisa gavana. Han hame long term trading ke liye kam se kam leverage ka prayog karna chahiye aur sath he trade open karne se pahale fundamentals ko thok baja kar dekh lena chahiye.
krishan
2012-02-26, 04:00 PM
Theoreticly, SL वहाँ जहाँ उलट है.
तो अगर आप तेजी और आप के खिलाफ जा रहे बाजार शुरू कर रहे हैं, बंद करो वहाँ जहाँ आप देख सकते हैं
शीर्ष पुष्टि.
because i'm trading with larger time frame H4, so my perfect stop loss will be at 50-100 pips. I'm creating this amount based on the average movement that a pair can do in a day. by expanding the stop loss a bit wider, it's a perfect combination with my larger timeframe which present slower movement.
yes you are right.candlesticks are better way of representing price movements.And determining perfect stop loss order i find its of less use as we have to be more perfect in determining TP order.SL order should also be given importance but only after TP.
krishan
2012-02-27, 05:26 PM
well i guess we should use stop loss in long term trading as its more important because the trade will be open for more long time and we may monitor once in 3days or a week or sometimes once in a month.
siddesh
2012-02-27, 06:18 PM
yes,2:1 ratio is the most common one which traders use.sometimes if we are confident we can use 3:1 .
i use SL very rarely and i will use only if i will not be able to watch the trade.
theboy2226
2012-02-29, 04:19 AM
if you are a beginner you should set stop loss and take profit 10 pips because as a beginner you sure do not wanna lose any thing but when you gain more exprience start to risk more than 10 pips or risk the same amount of pips but use bigger lots ,for me i set SL and TP after 30 pips and i use 0.10 lot
raka999
2012-02-29, 10:29 AM
I usually put the stop loss with a profit ratio of 1:1. I often put up 50 pips SL and TP 50 pips. also needs to be seen where the position is the price. is in overbought area or oversould. can be viewed with the help of indicators. to know our position, then SL will rarely touched.
malik83
2012-02-29, 11:29 AM
if you make better strategy and money management and have great knowledge and information about trading then you can easily determine your stop loss orders which will be so perfect for your trading.
krishan
2012-02-29, 07:39 PM
It depends on the strategy which you are using. Normally i trade using candlesticks and support & resistance. To place stop loss i use support and resistance points. On the diffirnce of 5 to 10 pips from support & resistance points i place my SL.
rajesh
2012-03-09, 04:39 PM
stop loss ka sabse zada use scalpers ko karna chhaiye kyunki unhe daily analyse karke daily paisa kamana hota hai..agar wo stop loss nahi lagayenge aur unki deal atki reh gayi to unhe kayi dino tak wait karna pad sakta hai
lekin stop loss laga lene se jaise jaise unki deal profit ya loss me close hoti jayeg iwaise waise wo next deal ki taraf dhyaan dete jayenge
netra
2012-03-10, 04:05 PM
That is a really very good money management option you have here. Its nice to see that people are here that are wise and only risk very little of their account size so that they can survive even if market crashes.
netra
2012-03-11, 07:08 PM
it completely depends on you and the market movement.You should set the stop loss nad take profit according to your money management.Money management is very important factor in forex.
sunil
2012-03-11, 07:18 PM
ya i agree with you pivot point is very good idea to apply in froex for entry and exit point. by using pivot points you can set your stop loss and take profit
norix
2012-03-11, 07:25 PM
I usually put the stop loss with a profit ratio of 1:1. I often put up 50 pips SL and TP 50 pips. also needs to be seen where the position is the price. is in overbought area or oversould. can be viewed with the help of indicators. to know our position, then SL will rarely touched.
comparison of stop losses had to be observant of take profit we will take, so that we can reduce losses, but also can control our advantage, so that we can be free to deal again
sachin
2012-03-11, 08:57 PM
trader who scalp dont need to set the stop loss and take profit because a scalper has to monitor the trade every time he trade but for long term trading stop loss and take profit is very essential to set
andhwrey
2012-03-11, 10:06 PM
Yes,scalpers didnt needed SL,but they must know when to stop when situations going wrong and didnt let pips become
more higher loss,they can close manually.
bambang
2012-03-12, 09:37 AM
I always get confused with setting the perfect stop loss. I know how important is to set SL when we trade but I am always in dilemma about how to calculate SL. Can anyone help me out with this issue?
to be able to correctly place the stop loss is dependent on the strategy you use. I used to put a stop loss with the help of indicators bolingger band. stop loss could be placed in the upper band or lower band, depending on your order.
norix
2012-03-12, 12:23 PM
we can not determine perfect stop loss.
we can set it base on our strategy or risk and reward ratio.
other thing in scalping trading we can fix stop loss in no. of pips like 10pips.
according to our tastes and how much capital we use to determine how we stop order
not a problem but the way we regulate the cessation of the loss
between gains and losses which we can adjust the high-risk
fashuvo
2012-03-12, 12:30 PM
You can look for support/resistance levels that held strong. Fib levels can be used for determining stop loss. It also depends on the time-frame and the pair, wider time-frame demands more room and so does the pair. If you have reached break-even, you can use trailing stops.
chetan
2012-03-12, 12:47 PM
I don't think so that its the good way to apply SL and TP, agar hmara tp 10 pips py aur sl 40 pips py ho ga tu ak position main stop loss hit karny k bad hmari 4 positions tp hit kren tb loss pora ho ga aur ic main boht time wast ho jaye ga. Our SL and TP should be according to logical levels like support and resistance.
chetan
2012-03-13, 01:02 PM
i trade using pivot point so i put stop loss on the basis of next resistence or a support level ...and i also determine the trend....for choosing how many pips is safe to put into stop loss
chetan
2012-03-13, 01:23 PM
SL is importance thing in forex ..but its should be set at right point...well for perfect stopp loss order ,,i use PIVOT point because it has more accuracy and easy to use ....
rajesh
2012-03-14, 02:42 PM
There are lots of materials on the internet that can help you understand candlestick patterns, the different types and how to interpret their combination. Just search on google for candlestick patterns and you will get a lot of options. My first introduction to candlestick trading came from the ******** website.
patil
2012-03-15, 02:23 PM
I am fully agree with you but its really not easy task to understand candlestick chart pattern properly and its hard for newbie which need lots of education but if we able to understand it then no doubt its a great system .
balakalimuthu
2012-03-15, 04:11 PM
Well you need to calculate your stop loss based on your risks and rewards ratio and you have a goal or target in mind and know how much profits or losses you are ready for on a particular trade and you determine your stop loss based on the same .
Yes stop-loss needs to be determined based on the strategy we follow. But people choose stop-loss based on the target level. Because they prefer stop-loss and target in 1:1 ratio. But experts suggest to go smaller stop-loss comparing to target pips.
Abdo22
2012-03-15, 04:34 PM
with my little expraince and what I encounter in forex I think we should not put a stop loss which is very court.because that I used to put a stop loss just beyond the line of resistance or support because I want to close my business with the loss only when a line of support or resistance is broken and it always help me earn more.
ashwini
2012-03-15, 04:54 PM
yeh bahut achha sawal hain kki hum stop loss order kaise de.. ya fir kanha dena chahiye .. kai baar aisa hota hain ki agar hum kuch fixed stoploss dete hain.. to market pahle sl ko hit kar jati hain then reverse hoti hain.. iss tarah se hum loss face karte hain.. main kai baar alag alag tarika istemaall kkar ke thak chuka humm .. hann ek hi tarika chod ke baki sab tarika utna supportednahi laga. agar main sell karta hun. to last candle ka higest level mera sl hota hain.. and main tp ek target fix kar deta hun.. isse mere ko .. achha fayda hota hain..
stop loss have to be at the last resistance if you wanna sell and at the last support if you wanna buy the pair this way we save pip from loss and try to get the long trend but this will give less chance to win the deal but it is great when there is a long trend about 400 pip and more in a week.
dmambi
2012-03-15, 07:17 PM
First of all there is no perfect thing in Forex trading.
And there are many ways to identify the support and Resistance lines, but needs again experience to make them work as the accuracy increases with experience only. we should better place the stop loss near to the strong support /resistance zone.
every person, every trader has a loss limit that is not the same as the others. also must determine how large tailored to the capital and the risk of loss that may occur. number of pips that should not be too short also not too far can 25-30pips, of course, adjust the lot is used.
sasmita11
2012-03-15, 07:36 PM
some traders do not set there stop loss order .When they open position.
there are many reason that trade avoid using this order.the primary one is greed if you initial a trade and feel that the tide is turning
and against you.natural to try and stay in for a market reversal so that the position goes in your favour and you always expect that
market will reverse ,thus turning your loss in to a profitable position in the forex market .however sometimes this is not what really happen
when the lossing position more painful .however if you are using a stop loss order .if you do have to face unlimited losses.
fxmate
2012-03-15, 08:42 PM
I suggest to have fixed stop loss target, because that way you don't have to think of anything, plus you can easily understand that if your trade reaches it, something was wrong. At least I use fixed stop loss and I stick to it so I prevent my self from losing more than I can afford on one single trade.
aryan
2012-03-16, 12:21 PM
this is an good signal that you are doing this formation because the power candlestick charts pattern is really powerful and unique to understand the special thing is that when you see signal in doji formation you able to make some money
patil
2012-03-16, 01:53 PM
it`s reverse pattern jeb ap buying ker rehe hote apko stop downward per lagana hota ha or jeb sell ker rehe hon to apko upward lagaa hota ha.
Calculaion kleye jitne pips loss kerna chah rehe hoon use currenct price mein add ker k decimal point k bad put ker dein
narendra
2012-03-19, 01:23 PM
yes you are right.candlesticks are better way of representing price movements.And determining perfect stop loss order i find its of less use as we have to be more perfect in determining TP order.SL order should also be given importance but only after TP.
vineet
2012-03-19, 01:38 PM
yes,2:1 ratio is the most common one which traders use.sometimes if we are confident we can use 3:1 .
i use SL very rarely and i will use only if i will not be able to watch the trade.
yes,2:1 ratio is the most common one which traders use.sometimes if we are confident we can use 3:1 .
i use SL very rarely and i will use only if i will not be able to watch the trade.
i think that can not make any different because when we use 1:3 ratio sto loss and take profit we will get 3 time loss and 1 profit trade only for 4 deals and this will give good result if we add good management for this system.
tatnasharlock
2012-03-19, 02:13 PM
use pivot point indicator to determine stop loss... or put you stop loss in the reversal point... if you are doing scalping or short term trading, then use bolinger bands and put the stop loss in the moving average 14... best of luck! :)
scorpian7
2012-03-21, 01:56 PM
Every currency pair has it's own dynamics . Some are highly volatile where as other may be less . So it always depends on the volatility and account size when you put stop loss to any of your trade.
aryan
2012-03-21, 02:06 PM
stop loss ko analyse karke set karna bahut zaruri step hota hai forex trading
traders kayi tarah se stop los values calculate karte hai jabki me hamesha support aur resistance ke hisba se hi stop loss set karta hon aur mujhe kafi fayda bhi hota hai isse
vineet
2012-03-22, 04:00 PM
pivot point ke hisaab se stop loss rkhan kuch shai nahi hai. yesme jyda open trade main or sl main jyda differenc hota hai.
stop loss hame support or resistnace ke base par rkhan chahiye ya fir apen risk and reward base par.
stop loss n to jyda hona chahiye or n kam.
anchitkole
2012-03-24, 04:50 PM
I am fully agree with you but its really not easy task to understand candlestick chart pattern properly and its hard for newbie which need lots of education but if we able to understand it then no doubt its a great system .
Meray kehayl sy stoop loss ka faisala apka apna hota hy magar trend k hsiab sy apko aik idea lgana parta hy k ap ko khan profit and loss limit set karni hy me to 20 pips profit limit and loss limit 25 pips down set karta hun .
kameeelforex
2012-03-24, 07:46 PM
I always get confused with setting the perfect stop loss. I know how important is to set SL when we trade but I am always in dilemma about how to calculate SL. Can anyone help me out with this issue?
ye sab app appne experince ki waja se he klar sakty ho kioun k main bhi apne experince ki base par he koi pending order play karta houunor app bhi sab indecator dekh k he stop loss play karo
ezincenter
2012-03-24, 08:07 PM
You use the profit and loss ratio to calculate how many pips that you are going to set as your SL and even TP. In every case, it is wise that if you are using a target of 100pips, then you will also use a SL of 50pips. I hope you are cleared.
But how if your target is 20 pip? have I to put 10 pips as stop loss? absolutely no as I think, because most of the time my take profit is always at 20 pip, it is easy for me to achieve this target.
we all need small stop loss and small loss but when we make this there is more prospect to hit stop loss and in this situation we have to enter the deal near to the point of stop loss and profit some pip.
over580
2012-03-26, 05:03 PM
I have quite a hard time struggling with setting my stop loss. First I did it with 10 pips...then 20 pips...still easily hit by the market. I also tried 30 pips. Well it is much better than those previous choices but to be more effective I am trying 40 pips, that is the farthest I can risk.
You better see the support level and keep the stop loss near that ,when you see that the trading call is moving higher and attains the next level,you can change that .
Stop loss also depends upon the individual plan and strategies that how much pips you can attain and afford to lose.
SL is importance thing in forex ..but its should be set at right point...well for perfect stopp loss order ,,i use PIVOT point because it has more accuracy and easy to use ....
waqtitrader
2012-03-29, 11:29 AM
I always get confused with setting the perfect stop loss. I know how important is to set SL when we trade but I am always in dilemma about how to calculate SL. Can anyone help me out with this issue?
ye to sahi baat ha g k app ko es k barye main koi bhi sahi nahi bata sakta k app perfect stop loss kese laga saktey ho kioun k main to sanghta houn k ham sab forex trading main sirf andazoun par he chaltey hane es liye ham es main sahi koi bhi guess nahi kar saktey hane sirf app ka experince jo ha na woh app ko sahi had tak guide kar sakta ha
anitagala124
2012-03-29, 01:50 PM
market ki volatility ke karan long term par hame stop loss bhi bada hi set karna padega varna stop loss trigger ho jayega aur hame bina karan nuksan uthana padega, long term ka uddeshya samay ke sath hone vale price appreciation ka labh uthana hai na ki stop loss me paisa gavana. Han hame long term trading ke liye kam se kam leverage ka prayog karna chahiye aur sath he trade open karne se pahale fundamentals ko thok baja kar dekh lena chahiye.
I think perfect stop loss is that where we dont loose much and also which is difficult to be hit. So usually wise traders set it below nearest resistance so that they get more chance to book profit then to hit stop loss.
anchitkole
2012-03-30, 06:28 PM
I usually put the stop loss with a profit ratio of 1:1. I often put up 50 pips SL and TP 50 pips. also needs to be seen where the position is the price. is in overbought area or oversould. can be viewed with the help of indicators. to know our position, then SL will rarely touched
rahul
2012-04-03, 01:03 PM
pivot point ke hisaab se stop loss rkhan kuch shai nahi hai. yesme jyda open trade main or sl main jyda differenc hota hai.
stop loss hame support or resistnace ke base par rkhan chahiye ya fir apen risk and reward base par.
stop loss n to jyda hona chahiye or n kam.
girish
2012-04-04, 11:19 PM
trader who scalp dont need to set the stop loss and take profit because a scalper has to monitor the trade every time he trade but for long term trading stop loss and take profit is very essential to set
ya i agree with you pivot point is very good idea to apply in froex for entry and exit point. by using pivot points you can set your stop loss and take profit
Techno
2012-04-05, 03:18 PM
I think perfect stop loss is that where we dont loose much and also which is difficult to be hit. So usually wise traders set it below nearest resistance so that they get more chance to book profit then to hit stop loss.
to determine the value of stop loss, we need to use analysis.
with the analysis, then we can know with certainty the limits of risk shows that our analysis is not valid. so we need to get out of the market. so as not to cause a greater loss.
samuelkanu
2012-04-05, 05:48 PM
Stop loss should be placed at possible areas of reversal.It depends on your strategy that you will use and the expectation for the trade i.e the amount of pips you are targeting.You should use the ratio of reward to risk for setting your stop loss e.g 2:1 or even1:1
tabestbestmaker
2012-04-05, 05:56 PM
there is no 100% coreect answer because these depends on alot of thins like which strategie your using do you plan on long terme trading or short terme etc...
tervarto
2012-04-05, 05:59 PM
Different situation is to stop the loss of one person to another, some of them prefer that the percentage of profit for the loss to be 3:1, and some of them preferred that the ratio of profit for the loss of 2:1, but should be a win-loss ratio at least 2:1, because if the ratio was 1:1 the equation would be a failed
Nabi Ahmed Gill
2012-04-05, 10:18 PM
I always get confused with setting the perfect stop loss. I know how important is to set SL when we trade but I am always in dilemma about how to calculate SL. Can anyone help me out with this issue?
foex trading main perfect loss both ahmeet rakhata ha forex trading is the best site perfect loss i know how improtant is to set sl when we trade main stop loss and take profit kas toor pr ap ko profit be data ha or ap ya to loss hasal kar sakta ho or loss be haslal kar sakta ho perfect stop loss trading main hota ha or take profit be hota ha forex trading main.
sinaga
2012-04-05, 10:22 PM
for myself I always use stop losses in every trade. 5:2 with my calculations only risking 50 pps to 20 pps take advantage. It is my plan to make the position of each trade. and I have to wait for the right time before deciding to trade. I have consistently benefited 20 pps per day.
sspences88
2012-04-05, 10:32 PM
i always use Stop loss at 50 to 100 pips and it also depends on your capital,or ye hmare uper b ha k hum kitna risk utha skte ha,mere khyal me to 100 pips best ha,ku k agr market thori dair k lye volatile b ho jati ha to trade loss me close na ho position chalti rahe, or jb market normal hogi or dsre logo k stop loss hit ho jae gay,to market osi trend me jati jae gi jis me hm ne trade ki hogi :)))
I think we should not put a stop loss that is very short. I usually put a stop loss just beyond the resistance or support line because I want to close my trades at loss only when a support or resistance line is broken.
waqarme2
2012-04-06, 02:13 AM
thanks buddy i think that is the better idea because i also think taht stop loss order is determined just when i use the previous day pivot points. and it depends on you that u take above r below pivot points.
LeeMinHo
2012-04-06, 10:57 AM
No have any way to put stop loss as perfect because everything in our world is relative . But i guess you can use trend lines , support and resistance or fibonacci to put stop loss because it is very good tools and most of traders often use them .
got2luvyou25
2012-04-06, 11:03 AM
thanks buddy i think that is the better idea because i also think taht stop loss order is determined just when i use the previous day pivot points. and it depends on you that u take above r below pivot points.
sehe kaja ap ne ki pivots poitns ko dekh lena chahay k wo kahan ha or us se kuch oper rakh ker stopo losses laga li jaye , but still when we are near to S or R level teb himhein dekhna chahay k koi news to nahi ha , because it`s not mean that ager hum ne kafi safe Sl le lia ha to hit nahi higa some time we also need to hedge the market
Ronak
2012-04-06, 11:51 AM
No have any way to put stop loss as perfect because everything in our world is relative . But i guess you can use trend lines , support and resistance or fibonacci to put stop loss because it is very good tools and most of traders often use them .
stop loss determination is based on the which type of trading style we have established for our trading...stop loss cant be perfect but can put accordingly to our risk and investment for better return
rahul
2012-04-06, 12:41 PM
Okay aap ki answer ke liye me sukriyada karna chahata hu. Mein ye jaan gaya hu ki hame stop loss hamare position ke reversal pattern pe lagana hein. Magar mein abhi confused hu ki hame kitne pips ki stop loss lagana chahiye. Filhal ta mein 20 pips ki stop loss ke sath trade karta hu. Kya ye thik hein waheedpcc?
ritesh
2012-04-06, 10:38 PM
of course you should put in mind the circumstances of the trade, the type if long-term or short term
& the volatility of the pair itself
you should also keep in mind if there is an impact of big news
all these factors affect on the value of stop loss that should be used
darksaimon
2012-04-06, 11:50 PM
I am works acquisition the taper sticks and it module use many second but i am certain that it gives angelical signals and far many healthier than the pipe charts.As far as forbid experience is attentive we individual to use it in all the trades as we do not essential to be in any bad transaction that will involve inaccurate the profits from the benevolent ones.
naziafarhan
2012-04-07, 01:42 AM
I think a stop loss should be placed above or below the highest high or the lowest of the pair. Cause the highest high or the lowest low may act as support and resistance. And if these levels are broken then there is a low chance for coming back.
ishvara
2012-04-07, 03:06 AM
There is no way to say that a stop loss is the perfect one in forex trading business. This is because the market is volatile, anything can happen and we would get good trading results.
joget
2012-04-07, 05:14 AM
yup, the right to install StopLoss is when there are indications that prices move in opposite directions to open your trading position, especially if the trend has begun to change direction or reversal has just begun. it is usually due to hit by the global economic news has a strong impact on price movements.
girish
2012-04-08, 01:16 PM
well i guess we should use stop loss in long term trading as its more important because the trade will be open for more long time and we may monitor once in 3days or a week or sometimes once in a month.
girish
2012-04-08, 01:32 PM
yes,2:1 ratio is the most common one which traders use.sometimes if we are confident we can use 3:1 .
i use SL very rarely and i will use only if i will not be able to watch the trade.
ritesh
2012-04-08, 02:54 PM
yes you are right.candlesticks are better way of representing price movements.And determining perfect stop loss order i find its of less use as we have to be more perfect in determining TP order.SL order should also be given importance but only after TP.
barkiman
2012-04-08, 03:17 PM
I set the stop loss is proportional to the take profit, or a ratio of 1:1. example, if teake profit 50 pips, 50 pips stop loss as well. I think this is a fairly wide range for anticipated losses. but, if I was still in front of the computer, so minus 30 pips, I do cut loss and reverse switch open position.
I set a stop loss according to the specific areas such as in areas of SD, and SR as well as using a stop loss with good money management..studied first in the demo account to place SL wise
there are several methods to calculate your loss, the best for me is the Trailing Stop, but you must pay attention to economic news, if the market is positive and also positive news then this is your opportunity to enjoy more than 150 pips.
some traders do not set there stop loss order .When they open position.
there are many reason that trade avoid using this order.the primary one is greed if you initial a trade and feel that the tide is turning
and against you.natural to try and stay in for a market reversal so that the position goes in your favour and you always expect that
market will reverse ,thus turning your loss in to a profitable position in the forex market .however sometimes this is not what really happen
when the lossing position more painful .however if you are using a stop loss order .if you do have to face unlimited losses.
with my little expraince and what I encounter in forex I think we should not put a stop loss which is very court.because that I used to put a stop loss just beyond the line of resistance or support because I want to close my business with the loss only when a line of support or resistance is broken and it always help me earn more.
I don't think so that its the good way to apply SL and TP, agar hmara tp 10 pips py aur sl 40 pips py ho ga tu ak position main stop loss hit karny k bad hmari 4 positions tp hit kren tb loss pora ho ga aur ic main boht time wast ho jaye ga. Our SL and TP should be according to logical levels like support and resistance.
That is a really very good money management option you have here. Its nice to see that people are here that are wise and only risk very little of their account size so that they can survive even if market crashes
While going for the trading we have to decide the profit limit which we want,i always trade for daily 20$ profit and trade with the news....i dont take the chance for the stop loss ...
Forexboy
2012-04-14, 08:43 PM
I still have to learn the candlesticks and I need some time, but I'm sure it gives good signals and much better than the online maps. If stop loss is concerned, we must use in all areas we do not want to be in a bad trade you take away the benefits.
there are several methods to calculate your loss, the best for me is the Trailing Stop, but you must pay attention to economic news, if the market is positive and also positive news then this is your opportunity to enjoy more than 150 pips.
when we use a stop loss in our trade, we must prepare ourselves in the loss and I think not all the traders want their trade with stop loss trade touched and I think it would be good to trade with a stop loss but hope to have a safe trade
dineshji
2012-04-17, 01:38 PM
I don't think so that its the good way to apply SL and TP, agar hmara tp 10 pips py aur sl 40 pips py ho ga tu ak position main stop loss hit karny k bad hmari 4 positions tp hit kren tb loss pora ho ga aur ic main boht time wast ho jaye ga. Our SL and TP should be according to logical levels like support and resistance.
sudsind
2012-04-17, 01:53 PM
test your strategy and see what room to breath it require, the sl should not be too small or too big, it depends upon various aspects what timeframe are you trading, what sl your strategy allows you, what is your risk to reward ratio, and if you are not ascertain of all this than placing stop loss 2-3 pips above recent highest high or 2-3 pips below recent lowest low will work, until unless the distance is not very large
we all need small stop loss and small loss but when we make this there is more prospect to hit stop loss and in this situation we have to enter the deal near to the point of stop loss and profit some pip.
marjuck
2012-04-17, 11:25 PM
the best way to determine the stop loss is support and resistance level. it will be more accurate then other method. pivot point is also used to detect the stop loss. i use the support and resistance level in my trade.
l have find out that every session starts with a trend it can be short or long but you can observe it easily.when the asian markets open in most case the trend start will continue until london session and london session will make a new trend until newyork.it can be different trends but important is trend is not changing every minute so when a move start just simply join.but you have to be there ad watch the market always during these times.
Good signals will give you a better idea about the current market trend and give you a direction for your trades but not signal about what is perfect stop loss for your trades. That you need to decide yourself based on your trades and profit targets as well.
You need to determine the stop loss levels on the basis of the risk you want to take and also your profit and risk ratio which you prefer to trade in .You need to keep all these factors in mind.
dineshji
2012-04-19, 01:03 PM
we can not determine perfect stop loss.
we can set it base on our strategy or risk and reward ratio.
other thing in scalping trading we can fix stop loss in no. of pips like 10pips.
it cannot be explain briefly as how to set sl, as no method is there which determine the sl. mostly people use support and resistance levels for setting the sl, but it needs more experience and time to understand, in start you could use 10 pips for take profit and 20 pips for sl.
dineshji
2012-04-19, 04:45 PM
yeah you are right as stop loss is important to stay keep in trade, when ever you open a trade then you should be prepare for it that it might go to loss as nothing could say anything about market any thing could be happen.so stop loss should be set and that is based on yours money management.
before think about stop loss we have to think about analysis first your entry point must be the last retreat point that you predict it to sell or to buy you have to make stop loss less as much as you can.
netra
2012-04-20, 03:08 PM
I think its diffucult one and corrent day support and resistance levels are the best because new trader can easily understand the support and resistance.
maurya
2012-04-20, 06:32 PM
yes you are right.candlesticks are better way of representing price movements.And determining perfect stop loss order i find its of less use as we have to be more perfect in determining TP order.SL order should also be given importance but only after TP.
sunil
2012-04-21, 01:19 PM
there is no such thing as perfect stop loss. a trader sets it as per his analysis and there is no specific tool which can give a perfect sl target.
generally the reasons around s&r are good resons to set the sl target. and many trader use this method
Maham Gill
2012-04-22, 07:57 PM
I always get confused with setting the perfect stop loss. I know how important is to set SL when we trade but I am always in dilemma about how to calculate SL. Can anyone help me out with this issue?
Forex trading sub sa achi bat ya ha k is main stop loss bilkul perfect kam karta ha kuch forum to stop loss or take profit ko allow nahi kartay Wahid yahi forum ha to take profit or stop loss ko both achi traqa sa kam karta esi layia to ya best forum ha all members ka laya/
waleedkhan
2012-04-22, 08:05 PM
I always get confused with setting the perfect stop loss. I know how important is to set SL when we trade but I am always in dilemma about how to calculate SL. Can anyone help me out with this issue?
long term trading may tu mujh sl ka kuch zayda tu idea nhi hai mujh lakin agar app short term trading karta hain tu app support and resistance ka hisab SL apply karni parah gi
taufiqbd
2012-04-22, 08:14 PM
In my strategy in forex trading I always set my stop loss where my capital loss is 2%. I suggest you first you take good knowledge how to determine support and resistance point then your maximum trading going to be wining trade and never take big risk for a particular trade. 2% stop loss is standard for a single trade.
bjbh427
2012-04-22, 08:20 PM
I think that the perfect stop loss order is different for each pair of currencies. I think that for EURUSD the perfect stop loss is 40 pips if you set 70 pips of take profit and 70 pips of stop loss if you set 40 pips of take profit. You can also verify this thing on a demo account and find out which combination suites you more.
comparison of stop losses had to be observant of take profit we will take, so that we can reduce losses, but also can control our advantage, so that we can be free to deal again
dweet
2012-04-25, 02:05 PM
Stop loss can be set based on the percentage of our equity account. Forex gurus advice that we should not lose more than 2% of your account equity on any one single forex trade. So what we do is to calculate the price where we will lose only 2% of our equity.
cac4a26
2012-04-25, 02:12 PM
You use the accumulation and loss arrangement to account how abounding pips that you are traveling to set as your SL and even TP.
In every case, it is astute that if you are application a ambition of 100pips, again you will aswell use a SL of 60 pluspips.
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