maybe what is meant in this conversation I do not really understand, at least for me MA is the beginning of the creation of thoughts that will predict the direction of market movements, there are many MA derivatives as an example from Bollinger band, and I still feel confident about the benefits of MA and actually all indicator indicators the same as high school or just follow market movements and also the same signal following market movements there are no indicators that are 100% accurate if there are certain quantities that are accurate so that there are many profit traders easily